Need Advice on how to deal with Liars - Page 5

Pressing-On · #41 02-16-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

That was the point--he said you could have the Holy Ghost, but not be filled with the Holy Ghost, and thus have room for a devil.

That was the part we went round and round about.

He may have changed his position, but that was exactly what he said.

I don't know, CS. I was off of this Forum for six months. Having just returned I don't want to get caught up in any of this anymore.

Thanks for your responses. I'll let Brother Blume speak for himself.

bethola · #42 02-16-2008, 08:23 AM

We have an entire FAMILY in our church like this. I'm beginning to think it is a generational curse. I've known every one of these women from oldest to youngest. One cannot believe anything they say. The scary part is that now the youngest (a young lady) has told some, shall we say, "unsavory" things about a young man in our church. While those of who know her know they aren't true. What will others believe?

As others have said, when they are confronted there is another lie to cover up that lie. Is it a generational curse?

Coonskinner · #43 02-16-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't know, CS. I was off of this Forum for six months. Having just returned I don't want to get caught up in any of this anymore.

Thanks for your responses. I'll let Brother Blume speak for himself.

Now don't get huffy, Sister.

I'm just reporting the facts of the conversation.

Coonskinner · #44 02-16-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bethola

We have an entire FAMILY in our church like this. I'm beginning to think it is a generational curse. I've known every one of these women from oldest to youngest. One cannot believe anything they say. The scary part is that now the youngest (a young lady) has told some, shall we say, "unsavory" things about a young man in our church. While those of who know her know they aren't true. What will others believe?

As others have said, when they are confronted there is another lie to cover up that lie. Is it a generational curse?

It could be, or it could simply be learned behavior.

Children learn what they live with.

Character issues are seldom "cured" by one laying on of hands.

Even if spirits are involved, they can be cast out, and the way they have bent the will and thinking of the individual they possessed still has to be changed by commitment to spiritual disciplines and renewing of the mind.

Pressing-On · #45 02-16-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Now don't get huffy, Sister.

I'm just reporting the facts of the conversation.

I'm not upset, CS. LOL! I'd have to read Brother Blume's comments and they are not here.

God bless,

Felicity · #46 02-16-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It could be, or it could simply be learned behavior.

Children learn what they live with.

Character issues are seldom "cured" by one laying on of hands.

Even if spirits are involved, they can be cast out, and the way they have bent the will and thinking of the individual they possessed still has to be changed by commitment to spiritual disciplines and renewing of the mind.

Excellent post!

Sister Alvear · #47 02-16-2008, 08:30 AM

It is usually an ego problem...or they feel inferior to others except they would not want you to know that...
Yes, I know it is the devil...sin is from his dark kingdom...however these things need to be dealt with and people need to pray for these people and in a nice way if possible they need to be helped...some may need professional help. ( I know some disagree with me on this point)....

Felicity · #48 02-16-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

It is usually an ego problem...or they feel inferior to others except they would not want you to know that...
Yes, I know it is the devil...sin is from his dark kingdom...however these things need to be dealt with and people need to pray for these people and in a nice way if possible they need to be helped...some may need professional help. ( I know some disagree with me on this point)....

True!

bethola · #49 02-16-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It could be, or it could simply be learned behavior.

Children learn what they live with.

Character issues are seldom "cured" by one laying on of hands.

Even if spirits are involved, they can be cast out, and the way they have bent the will and thinking of the individual they possessed still has to be changed by commitment to spiritual disciplines and renewing of the mind.

I agree with the learned behavior concept. Sometimes I also wonder if it is a self esteem issue that just BLOSSOMS over time. The really "scary" thing is that these people absolutely BELIEVE what they are telling and I know others do as well.

We are fearfully and wonderfully made...very complex individuals.

StillStanding · #50 02-16-2008, 08:35 AM

I would rather have someone lie to me all of the time than lie to me in unexpected unequal sequential patterns.

If they lie all the time, I will at least KNOW they're lying! It's the ones who tell a good one every now and then that keep me puzzled!

There's nothing I despise more than someone who lies!