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[jrLA]

Originally Posted by Rev

Because of sin and the human nature. I'm sure you have heard the term give them an inch and they will take a mile.

Just look at the people on this site that call themselves pentecostal.

I saw a church that was the most powerful church I ever walked into become a total mess. And all the pastor did was quit preaching standards.

It went from having someone get the H.G. just about every service to where now they are lucky to have someone get the H.G. every 6 mos.

But, Rev...you can't broad stroke every church with that filter. I have always been taught and firmly believe in balance. There must be a balance in ministry? While there is an evolution of methods...there should NEVER be an evolving of the message! That remains untouched...the same yesterday, today, and forever! One God...Holy Ghost infilling, Necessity of Tongues at that infilling, being baptized in Jesus Name, and a holy seperated life are all STILL essential!

And yes, we in LA still believe it all!

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

it is just not the TV. TV is just the straw that broke the camals back.

My point is, Some of our churches don't look Pentecostal. Some pastor have allowed to much into our churches.

I know of one will known pastor who allowed lady who had earring on run there lady’s fellowship.

Our standard of holiness has got to be kept up.

I don’t want my children running with the church up the street unless they believe likes us and there standards are similar to ours.

When I was a child the difference from one UPC church to the other was miner at worst now it is Major at best.

Dan’D

What you are talking about is mild compared to what I'm seeing in UPC churchs.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by jrLA

But, Rev...you can't broad stroke every church with that filter. I have always been taught and firmly believe in balance. There must be a balance in ministry? While there is an evolution of methods...there should NEVER be an evolving of the message! That remains untouched...the same yesterday, today, and forever! One God...Holy Ghost infilling, Necessity of Tongues at that infilling, being baptized in Jesus Name, and a holy seperated life are all STILL essential!

And yes, we in LA still believe it all!

I've preached in many places in LA. and yes most of the churches there still live it. But you should see what I'm seeing in other places.

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by Rev

What you are talking about is mild compared to what I'm seeing in UPC churchs.

Explain

Dan'D

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by Rev

What you are talking about is mild compared to what I'm seeing in UPC churchs.

This is NOT in every church!

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

Explain

Dan'D

99% of the women with earrings, paints, cut hair. Man and woman having an affair still on the platform, etc.

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

it is just not the TV. TV is just the straw that broke the camals back.

My point is, Some of our churches don't look Pentecostal. Some pastor have allowed to much into our churches.

I know of one will known pastor who allowed lady who had earring on run there lady’s fellowship.

Our standard of holiness has got to be kept up.

I don’t want my children running with the church up the street unless they believe likes us and there standards are similar to ours.

When I was a child the difference from one UPC church to the other was miner at worst now it is Major at best.

Dan’D

Do you read your post's before your submit reply?

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by Rev

99% of the women with earrings, paints, cut hair. Man and woman having an affair still on the platform, etc.

Ok...that's obsurd! You're being way too judgemental here. I know that number is too high!

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

Explain

Dan'D

I'm not sure what happened to that last post. Try again.

99% of the women with earrings, cut hair (shorter than mine and mine is short for a man), pants etc.

Man and woman having an affair still on the platform. etc.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by jrLA

Ok...that's obsurd! You're being way too judgemental here. I know that number is too high!

Just FACT!