Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

As I said before, I would not attend any meeting that would not allow at least my little (unobtrusive) digital recorder. The things of God belong to the children of God. If they do not belong to the children of God forever, then they are not of God. IMHO. But, hey! I've been wrong before...I think. Standing here in my black robe on the sidelines.

Oh, ok.

Well, you mentioned trying the spirits, and I was just wondering how you "tried the spirit" if you weren't even there? Thought maybe you were there and heard some things that didn't line up with scripture, or felt a strange spirit during the worship, etc.

Are you making the huge leap that since they won't allow video cameras that God must not be there?

If so, I'd really like some justification on that one.........the scripture you've provided so far is pretty thin........

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Oh, ok.

Well, you mentioned trying the spirits, and I was just wondering how you "tried the spirit" if you weren't even there? Thought maybe you were there and heard some things that didn't line up with scripture, or felt a strange spirit during the worship, etc.

Are you making the huge leap that since they won't allow video cameras that God must not be there?

If so, I'd really like some justification on that one.........the scripture you've provided so far is pretty thin........

Video cameras? Here we go with video cameras again. I never mentioned video cameras. I would not neccessily want video cameras in my meetings either. There are too many squirrelous or squirrelly people there that would become instant movie actors. The camera has such a way with the squirrely. Ever seen 'em before? You say, "lights," watch 'em tense up. Say "camera," then you can see them clear their throats and get ready. Now say, "Action," man....you've never seen such acting. So no, I did not say "video camera." Too many are not able to handle it.

The scripture that I provided may be thin for some, but it is anvil hard and resolutely sound for me. If I have to go digging in the hole of the wall to find out what is going on behind there, where the spiritual light of day is not shining, I am afraid of which way the ancients are turned and what God they truly worship and what light they are looking to.

Beware of that which seeks to be hid except that they have control of it.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Video cameras? Here we go with video cameras again. I never mentioned video cameras. I would not neccessily want video cameras in my meetings either. There are too many squirrelous or squirrelly people there that would become instant movie actors. The camera has such a way with the squirrely. Ever seen 'em before? You say, "lights," watch 'em tense up. Say "camera," then you can see them clear their throats and get ready. Now say, "Action," man....you've never seen such acting. So no, I did not say "video camera." Too many are not able to handle it.

The scripture that I provided may be thin for some, but it is anvil hard and resolutely sound for me. If I have to go digging in the hole of the wall to find out what is going on behind there, where the spiritual light of day is not shining, I am afraid of which way the ancients are turned and what God they truly worship and what light they are looking to.

Beware of that which seeks to be hid except that they have control of it.

Lol, ok, I give up.

Let me summarize, and correct me if I'm wrong.

*You did not go to Tulsa.

*You are basing your assumption that God is not there on the fact that they didn't allow filming of any type, camera, digital device, cell phone, etc.

*From that, you likened them to hiding behind a wall, and you are having to look thru the hole in the wall, presumably because there's no video for you to watch.

*So, you use an "Anvil hard" scripture to make the ludicrous claim that "God is not there".

So, my interpretation of your argument is, "Since they will not allow anyone to record their services, they are like the evil children of Israel that worship idols behind walls, and henceforth God is not there"

Did I misinterpret anything?

[OP_Carl]

The danger in arguing with an idiot is that bystanders lose track of which one is which.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

The danger in arguing with an idiot is that bystanders lose track of which one is which.

Hahahahaha, excellent point, OP.

Since I'm not sure which of us you're referring to, I'll abstain from further discussion!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Right. But, that is only a part of the reason. The other reason is the power of CONTROL.

This is utter nonsense and TOTALLY untrue.

There were many there that are against the use of video.

[Whole Hearted]

I want to add that the Spirit of the Lord was there in a mighty way.

It has been a while since I have been in a meeting where I felt so much of the power of God, and I have been to all kinds of meetings.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

This is utter nonsense and TOTALLY untrue.

There were many there that are against the use of video.

I corrected your spelling so it'd make better sense. Tattly untrue just wasn't working for me.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

This is utter nonsense and TOTALLY untrue.

There were many there that are against the use of video.

So, when will they be splitting away from this group? I mean, since not agreeing with everything in UPC was the reason for starting this org.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I corrected your spelling so it'd make better sense. Tattly untrue just wasn't working for me.

I always made A in school except for one subject, you can guess which one that was.