~~~DIVIDE AND CONQUER or JUST DIVIDE~~~

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I agree and believe that is the problem. He's seeking to please man and not taking time to see what God wants.

However, the problem still remains...........anyone that questions what is going on is told they can leave. Is this a true pastor's heart?

I just hate seeing the hurt this church will have to endur.

I share your your sadness, not only for this church, but for what is being represented here. Its Berlin all over again. A wall is being built to divide God's people. We talk about how bad the world is, but... that wall in Berlin is gone today. But look at the Apostolic church. While the world is tearing down its walls.... we are busy building ours. A divided house cannot stand. Those who rejoice today over the division among God' people will weep one day, when they hang their harps in the willows of a strange land.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Well, I've been reading all the Tulsa stuff and since it doesn't affect me I haven't really felt anything strong about it.

Just knowing this has happened to a friend of mine and their church just makes my heart hurt.

How many more churches, people are going to be confused with all this?

This man isn't using any kind of wisdom.

Trying to turn something that sharp that quick is a sure fire recipe for a major wreck.

[StMark]

Accord,

I can hardly believe that your pastor started preaching against eating pork chops but then again, i've been here in CA. so i shouldn't be too surprised.


there is one church that is teaching against women having C-sections.
I'm not sure why they are teaching this but i can find out. the pastor's wife whose church teaches this just posted on a friend of mine's blog and told about their new conviction on this

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by StMark

Accord,

I can hardly believe that your pastor started preaching against eating pork chops but then again, i've been here in CA. so i shouldn't be too surprised.


there is one church that is teaching against women having C-sections.
I'm not sure why they are teaching this but i can find out. the pastor's wife whose church teaches this just posted on a friend of mine's blog and told about their new conviction on this

Now that would be all kinds of stupid! Does she not realize that for some women without a c section the baby will die? Hello!! That has stupid written all over it!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by StMark

Renda
I saw a church that did this,then later the pastor changed his mind again
it wasn't God afterall which led to even more confusion for the saints.

Since he's a young man,I bet he is seeking afirmation from someone.
It happens a lot with younger men in ministry. it's just what it is

Yes, what he needs is to seek is a good mentor.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Now that would be all kinds of stupid! Does she not realize that for some women without a c section the baby will die? Hello!! That has stupid written all over it!

Absolutely.

My wife would have died with our first if not for a C-Section.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Yes, what he needs to seek is a good mentor.

sounds like he allready has one, lol,dt not good,

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

But I KNOW PERSONALLY that shoe has been on the other foot many times where saints were forced out because of the 'so-called liberty' preached in church that had always had outward standards. And folks on her applauded.
The man was a visonary leading the church into higher heights but this young man who is doing th same on the opposite in the the spectrum is divisive.

Not true. Some here will applaud what this pastor is doing. It's according to what side of the fence you sit.

It's division no matter which way it goes and it's usually from following man's wants and not God's.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Absolutely.

My wife would have died with our first if not for a C-Section.

Both of my children were born with C-sections performed due to my wife's health...

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Absolutely.

My wife would have died with our first if not for a C-Section.

Same with me! If they had told me none.. I would have died and so would have my son... just not an option and I am sorry I would chose mine and my childs life over anything a pastor or his wife said any day...and I am not a rebellious saint... but thats just stupid!