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Old 12-31-2007, 11:53 AM
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Oh, hon, I see the good, and even try to contibute to it every now and then.
That's what will make the difference!

There are some personality conflicts that are bound to always be around on public forums!
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What could possibly be the down side to giving altars away? Someone may actually use one.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:56 AM
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What could possibly be the down side to giving altars away? Someone may actually use one.
True ...

Maybe even paying for it ... a nominal fee ... not even to cover the costs may be more effective.

People usually don't value free stuff ... pay something for it ... and it becomes more valuable ....

Many examples of this in our world.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:59 AM
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That's what will make the difference!

There are some personality conflicts that are bound to always be around on public forums!
True...we have that in everyday life...
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I actually appreciate your defense of the "good" posting going on here.

I will accept your challenge and stay in Deep Waters and other more intelligent rooms of the forum for a while.

Yes, it HAS gotten old. Yes, some posters should see the GOOD going on in the UPC too.
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Naww, it won't take too long. Duh... I appreciate a challenge. Gotta clean off my boots from this muck, though. New Years Resolution lol
You stepped in here.

To ask a poster from refraining from the Fellowship Hall and post in the "more intelligent" rooms ... while having only a handful of posts in said rooms ....

may say something.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:01 PM
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This scripture keeps rolling over and over in my mind - - actually, singing it as we sang it in chorale!

2 Chronicles 7:14 (King James Version)
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14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I think the pastor is on to something!
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This scripture keeps rolling over and over in my mind - - actually, singing it as we sang it in chorale!

2 Chronicles 7:14 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I think the pastor is on to something!


From the books I've read from Brooklyn Tabernacle's pastor, Jim Cymbala...he says their most important service of the week is the Tuesday night prayer service...they have always made this gathering their most important one with most emphasis. From the countless testimonies of miraculous events they witnessed through the years...this focus has not been in vain.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:16 PM
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I heard someone say when I was a child you can preach too much-shout too much-sing too much- but you can't pray too much.
Not possible to backslide on your knees.
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I know this pastor. He is a fine man of God.

Anything anyone can do to encourage prayer is on the right track. IMO
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I heard someone say when I was a child you can preach too much-shout too much-sing too much- but you can't pray too much.
Not possible to backslide on your knees.
Not sure about this absolute ...

I know men who were disciplined enough to wake up everyday at 4 -5 o'clock in the morning for church prayer ....

but were involved in sin.

Yes we must be prayerful and watch ...

but God's command ... as Renda reminded us is to first .... humble ourselves ...

Genuflecting does not necessarily mean one has humbled their self.

"Two people went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, was praying thus, 'God, I thank you that I am not like other people: thieves, rogues, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of all my income.' But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even look up to heaven, but was beating his breast and saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' I tell you, this man went down to his home justified rather than the other." (Luke 18:10-14a)
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