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11-29-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
They are really in a no win situation. If they do nothing people will complain that they are ignorant of what is going on and are not trying to keep the org. together and keep people from leaving.
If they address the issue then acusations like yours are made.
Bottom line is that no matter how they handle this they will be criticized.
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One thing I think is that it won't just be this meeting and it's over...
I think this is going to sour and tie some folks up for years...pitting family against family...brother against brother and sister against sister....
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11-29-2007, 10:19 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Anyone care to list the down side?
BTW I am not saying there isn't one - just wondering if someone would like to make a list or start a thread....
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You are on TV more than all of us.
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11-29-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
They are really in a no win situation. If they do nothing people will complain that they are ignorant of what is going on and are not trying to keep the org. together and keep people from leaving.
If they address the issue then acusations like yours are made.
Bottom line is that no matter how they handle this they will be criticized.
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This assumes people leaving is always a BAD thing... 
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-29-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Do you have space booked on the next Soyuz to the ISS so you can have full space for your ego?
You are almost on the edge of ugly with this sentence.
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I think you misunderstood. The thread was opened with the thought that the letter writers doth protest too much... We all are familiar with that phrase. It seemed to me that the charge was being made that the "letter writers" (specifically CC) were aware of more damage then they were letting on.
I disagreed with that analysis and offered the opinion that since the total numbers are not in, everyone is speaking from a position of benightedness. None of us know what the impact will be.
My looks may put me "on the edge of ugly," I can do nothing about that. But what I said was not unkind. I'm sorry if you took it some other way. I'm still trying to read the post in a way that sounds offensive, but I can't get it.
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11-29-2007, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
This assumes people leaving is always a BAD thing... |
Doesn't matter if it is a good thing or bad thing. I have theorized before on AFF that perhaps the powers that be at the Mothership are actually ok with those that have been unhappy for some time leaving as it will result in more unity with those left.
However even if that is true HQ will still be criticized no matter how they handle the Tulsa meeting and people leaving.
Say nothing and you are said to be sticking your head in the sand. Address the situation and you are said to be running scared, etc.
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11-29-2007, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Doesn't matter if it is a good thing or bad thing. I have theorized before on AFF that perhaps the powers that be at the Mothership are actually ok with those that have been unhappy for some time leaving as it will result in more unity with those left.
However even if that is true HQ will still be criticized no matter how they handle the Tulsa meeting and people leaving.
Say nothing and you are said to be sticking your head in the sand. Address the situation and you are said to be running scared, etc.
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WEC might be saying, put up with a short term headache to avoid a long term one...
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Last edited by Pastor G; 11-29-2007 at 10:42 PM.
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11-29-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Don't use me as any kind of barometer, Brother.
I don't claim to represent anybody or anything but me and mine.
I am in a very unique situation, a small, scattered, very conservative district.
We have really been removed from the mainstream of the organization for years.
We aren't really considered to be of any consequence by HQ...I have been in enough general committee meetings to know that, and I understand why. Not enough numbers or dollars. That doesn't offend me at all. I know what organizations are and how they function. Money talks.
So whether I leave or not doesn't mean a whole lot.
The resolution affects me about as much as folks in Alaska would be affected if congress passed a law limiting the use of air conditioning.
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I guess we are in the same boat, it would be of very little consequence if I pulled out of the UPCI. It doesn't matter to me to what organization a brother belongs or doesn't as long as he's preaching The Truth and producing the fruit of the Spirit. When the love of Christ is in evidence, I don't care what a person calls them self.
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11-29-2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
One thing I think is that it won't just be this meeting and it's over...
I think this is going to sour and tie some folks up for years...pitting family against family...brother against brother and sister against sister....
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It could be just like the Civil War al over again!!
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11-29-2007, 11:17 PM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by CC1
It could be just like the Civil War al over again!!
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Would that be the Civil War of 1992-1993 in which, I understand, over 800 UPCI ministers left the org.?
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11-29-2007, 11:29 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by CC1
Doesn't matter if it is a good thing or bad thing. I have theorized before on AFF that perhaps the powers that be at the Mothership are actually ok with those that have been unhappy for some time leaving as it will result in more unity with those left.
However even if that is true HQ will still be criticized no matter how they handle the Tulsa meeting and people leaving.
Say nothing and you are said to be sticking your head in the sand. Address the situation and you are said to be running scared, etc.
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Oh yes, they will eb criticized, but I am just saying God is in control and all is not lost in spite of the criticism.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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