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End Times Overview -Joel Richardson
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The next kingdom that did crush all other’s territory geographically, culturally, and religiously, and conquered Babylon and the Middle East for long periods was the Islamic Caliphates from 632 AD to 1922 AD. Therefore, the iron legs are more likely to be the Islamic Caliphates, and the toes an Islamic Caliphate revival attempt.

Curiously, the first Islamic Caliphates were very united, but they began to be divided among themselves like the Grecian empire started united and then divided, and fought among themselves for power and one part in particular, Epiphanes, attacking the people of God very wickedly.
I mentioned earlier, the Islamic Caliphates (first the Arab, then the Turkish) are already prophesied under the 5th and 6th Trumpet Judgments.

That the fourth kingdom in Daniel 2 and the fourth beast in Daniel 7 is the Roman seems incontrovertible. Otherwise, the Roman Empire (which destroyed Jerusalem, which gave official sanction to the execution of Christ, and which under the Papacy persecuted the saints for literally 1260 years - exactly as prophesied - would be essentially completely missed in prophecy. I mean, from my point of view, if we have a series of prophecies, and in history we find something that answers to everything prophesied, why would we look for another?

The Sassanid Empire was established in the 3rd century AD, and lasted until the Muslim conquest of Iran/Parthia in the 7th century (part of the Trumpet Judgments and fulfilled prophecy, by the way). In fact, after reading the history of the Sassanids, I am convinced their history is already contemplated in the Revelation (but certainly not as the beast from the sea, they simply don't fit the descriptions).

Sassanid persecution of Christians was sporadic, often relaxed, and several Sassanid royal family members became Christians (Orthodox). The Sassanic Empire was not notably "different" from previous Oriental empires and kingdoms.

The Islamic Caliphates likewise do not fit the prophetic descriptions of the fourth beast in Daniel's visions or the fourth kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar's dream. The Babylonian was succeeded by the Persian, the Persian by the Greek, and the Greek by the Roman. The Imperial Roman was succeeded by the little horn and the various kingdoms that arose out of the fourth empire (Rome). The Caliphate came later. What I am saying is that the successive powers in Daniel do seem to be succeeding immediately from one to the other. To suggest a 600 year gap between the Greek and the Islamic power structure just seems incongruent with the rest of the dream and visions.

While God's people may certainly have been present in the Persian area, that is not where they were centered, nor where important developments took place that affected the history of Christendom (which is essentially the same thing as "the history of mankind since the time of Christ").
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In the video I just posted if you go to 35:40. Joel Richardson says that Israel is under a curse. But get this, it's because they aren't practicing Judaism. Not because they haven't accepted the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Yup, Joel is a futurist.

Relating Biggs with him is kind of funny though. He criticized Dana Cornerstone in his podcast when he came out from the Biblical standpoint.

But anyway, if you want to attack him as a person to discredit him you will probably find something.

I personally found his ideas interesting, and I built my own ideas I posted here inspired in his, but finally disagreeing with his. In fact my idea of the Sasanian empire being the seventh short living kingdom in Rev 17 appears to be very new. I can’t find anyone presenting it before on Google.
I'm not attacking the person. I'm attacking what the person believes.
I'm use it, you offer me this guy and he is not just a futurists. He is a Zionist. Big difference.
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I think the prophecy is indeed about the fate of Babylon's dominion and its relationship with the promise land.
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Can you give me your definition of the Promise Land?
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Joel Richardson is a Christian Zionist.

That my dear friends explains his eschatology.

Jesus is coming back to save Modern Israel.

That is Joel Richardson's linchpin.
"COURSE HIGHLIGHTS
A clear understanding of the difference between the Greek philosophical worldview and the biblical worldview."

From Joel's website ----> https://joelstrumpet.com/ under the section "End Times Masterclass".

Didn't we just have a conversation about supposed differences between "Greek worldview and Biblical (ie Jewish, Hebrew) worldview?"

I am already becoming highly skeptical...
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A clear understanding of the difference between the Greek philosophical worldview and the biblical worldview."

From Joel's website ----> https://joelstrumpet.com/ under the section "End Times Masterclass".

Didn't we just have a conversation about supposed differences between "Greek worldview and Biblical (ie Jewish, Hebrew) worldview?"

I am already becoming highly skeptical...
Ah ha, I see.
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"COURSE HIGHLIGHTS
A clear understanding of the difference between the Greek philosophical worldview and the biblical worldview."

From Joel's website ----> https://joelstrumpet.com/ under the section "End Times Masterclass".

Didn't we just have a conversation about supposed differences between "Greek worldview and Biblical (ie Jewish, Hebrew) worldview?"

I am already becoming highly skeptical...
He teaches the Gap Theory in regard to the 70th Week of Daniel:

" I personally believe that the Scriptures teach the traditional view of Daniel’s
70 weeks, with the full final week yet to come." ---> https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/...Revisited1.pdf

While being very vague, he nevertheless seems to believe the New covenant is a special covenant with the Jews and has regard to their occupation of Palestine, and that growing anti-Israeli political sentiment is "Satan's rage against the (new) covenant": see ---> https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/...es-of-God-.pdf

He is a futurist: ---->https://joelstrumpet.com/the-futuris...se-in-luke-21/

I have long ago disregarded any prophetic interpretative opinions by established futurists because they err in the fundamentals, therefore any correct conclusions they might make would be akin to a broken clock being correct about the time.
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End Times Overview -Joel Richardson start at 35:40

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Joel Richardson is with the FAI, and there is this about the FAI: https://www.mikereynolds.me/writing/fai

And this about Joel's role in how FAI "handled" the matter: https://firebrandnotes.com/2020/09/0...rnational-fai/

So, infidelities, IHOP, and cover-ups. Where have we seen this play out before? Oh, wait, it's playing out right now with Reed.
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