Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
So, you can believe everyone from Muslims to Popeye to be saved...
look, as i have said, many times now, i did not say that anyone was saved, either; but that you make yourself God when you declare "All Muslims are lost," and i pointed out Scripture that indicates that not everyone in the kingdom will agree with your perceptions.
I am not interested in making anyone look bad here, or getting into a pissing match with you. I understand where "All _______ are lost" comes from, it can be easy to assume this pov, but it is self-serving, and it is a sin. If you doubt this, even in your heart, then you are invited to actually reply to my questions, which Scripture posits for us.
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998
Christ will judge the quick and the dead and apart from Christ they will be found guilty of breaking His law and ignoring His sacrifice upon the cross. They will be lost.
i do not disagree with this, but i suggest that it is Christ's place to judge, and not ours, and that we have many, many parables that suggest that we should not hold others to our understandings.
What you most fear is going to manifest, simply because that is what you hold in your collective minds. Is the only reason i persist here. One invites destruction with these proclamations, that are obviously already widely held by the average lost American. So believe as you will, but see that you will find what you seek.
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
12For what business is it of mine to judge outsiders? Don’t you judge those who are inside? 13But God judges outsiders. Put away the evil person from among yourselves.x, y
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
look, as i have said, many times now, i did not say that anyone was saved, either;
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998
Christ will judge the quick and the dead and apart from Christ they will be found guilty of breaking His law and ignoring His sacrifice upon the cross. They will be lost.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
i do not disagree with this, but i suggest that it is Christ's place to judge, and not ours, and that we have many, many parables that suggest that we should not hold others to our understandings.
You see this is what contrary teachings to Christ tends to do. They tend to leave you without a rear guard. Well, let's take a little look see at what you got. You agreed with NG, but you still want to say that all Monsters (let's not call them muslims) but all Monsters are not lost. Well, you see that just doesn't fly. Because all Monsters don't believe Jesus for who He said He was, and therefore Jesus said they would DIE in their sins. Cut and dry, and you wanting to be some Harikrishna wanna-be isn't going to change those words.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
but that you make yourself God when you declare "All Muslims are lost,"
No, no, no, it doesn't. That no more makes me God, anymore than it makes me a traffic cop when I teach my daughter to stop for a red light, or not to exceed the speed limit posted on the road. So, like NG posted (and YOU agreed) "Christ will judge the quick and the dead and apart from Christ they will be found guilty of breaking His law and ignoring His sacrifice upon the cross. They will be lost." End of game.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
and i pointed out Scripture that indicates that not everyone in the kingdom will agree with your perceptions.
Post it again, I must of missed it.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
I am not interested in making anyone look bad here,
Come on with the false piety, I don't respond like I do with people who don't who play nice. Your postings are your testimony.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
or getting into a pissing match with you.
Well, well, well, then you should reconsider how you play with others.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
I understand where "All _______ are lost" comes from, it can be easy to assume this pov, but it is self-serving, and it is a sin.
You just agreed with NG, "Christ will judge the quick and the dead and apart from Christ they will be found guilty of breaking His law and ignoring His sacrifice upon the cross. They will be lost." Are you always this puzzled?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
If you doubt this, even in your heart, then you are invited to actually reply to my questions, which Scripture posits for us.
I doubt you are saved.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
12For what business is it of mine to judge outsiders? Don’t you judge those who are inside? 13But God judges outsiders. Put away the evil person from among yourselves.x, y
1 Corinthians 5:12-13 is talking about God judging and condemning perverts who are without the church, the apostle wasn't saying that perverts were saved because they weren't in the church. It isn't even about salvation, the apostle's main point was that the saints would have to interact with all the scum outside their fellowship, one issue as in commerce. They were still to be light and salt as they interacted with the world. But incestuous relationships were not allowed to continue within the church family. Paul's logic is concerning being in FELLOWSHIP, not salvation. His letter tells them to not be in communion with perverts as brothers and sisters, but he goes on to say not those who are in the world, because then the saint would have to physically leave the world.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
ok well i expect a lot of resistance, as All Muslims Are Lost is state policy now. But it cannot be said that you who are called by His Name were not warned that you are standing on the tracks, and there is a train coming. Sorry if my attitude made a poor job of it.
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
ok well i expect a lot of resistance,
Does that fuel your piety?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
as All Muslims Are Lost is state policy now.
No, it was always policy since Jesus said these words: "that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."
The apostle also said that all Muslims are lost: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
The Apostle John also said all Muslims are lost: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Sorry, but unless they will repent they will perish.
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Originally Posted by shazeep
But it cannot be said that you who are called by His Name were not warned that you are standing on the tracks, and there is a train coming. Sorry if my attitude made a poor job of it.
Here goes the pious threats again.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
But it cannot be said that you who are called by His Name were not warned that you are standing on the tracks, and there is a train coming.
Sorry if my attitude made a poor job of it.
Funny, but this guy keeps telling us that we shouldn't say Muslims are lost, but he is continually posting that we are going to be lost.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by Ferd
holy cow!
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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