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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by mfblume
The whole muslim religion is so fleshly based. Countless physical cleansings, focus on virgins in heaven, etc. Still sacrificing animals!
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Christianity has an empty grave. He did what he said he would do - Isaiah 53:3-6
"He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it." - Isaiah 25:8
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05-03-2015, 01:54 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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The whole muslim religion is so fleshly based. Countless physical cleansings, focus on virgins in heaven, etc. Still sacrificing animals!
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ok there are no virgins in the Qur'an in that context; yes, it might be twisted to men's purposes, but this is just more pot calling a kettle black. Low blow. It does not reflect the overwhelming majority, sorry.
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05-03-2015, 01:57 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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That's such a disparity between one who studies the bible to learn truth and its detractors.
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you outline the difference in much study v a different understanding well here, reflecting Scripture on the matter. At the end of the day it is your heart and not your dogma that matters.
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05-03-2015, 02:00 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
In the NT covenant, there is no one going to be saved outside of Acts 2:38. If the Jewish people don't embrace that truth, they will be like you - denying that God has come to seek and to save that which are lost. Not believing that God has manifest himself in flesh is anti-christ. |
you make yourself the judge when you say this, believing you have righteous judgement. you are asking for a doctrinal embrace that must adhere to your lexicon, when the Spirit will not be bound by your definitions. You do not know if anyone is denying that God comes to seek and save them. You are talking about people who pray like 5 times a day  so, understand that Christ is not manifest according to your schedule, necessarily, but is always, always, always manifest in the more oppressed which gives your position of blatant assurance an especially chilling toll for me, as i know it is the popular one, yet we are by no means the more oppressed.
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05-03-2015, 02:19 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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you make yourself the judge when you say this, believing you have righteous judgement. you are asking for a doctrinal embrace that must adhere to your lexicon, when the Spirit will not be bound by your definitions. You do not know if anyone is denying that God comes to seek and save them. You are talking about people who pray like 5 times a day so, understand that Christ is not manifest according to your schedule, necessarily, but is always, always, always manifest in the more oppressed which gives your position of blatant assurance an especially chilling toll for me, as i know it is the popular one, yet we are by no means the more oppressed. |
I believe you are coming from the premise of "opinion" as judgment - even going so far as calling that righteous judgment.
I am speaking truth. There is ONE Gospel that we will all answer to. It is that black and white.
I can say a rosary 5 times a day. That doesn't make me know truth.
I can chant this prayer 5 times a day - it isn't truth - Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.
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05-03-2015, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shazeep
ok there are no virgins in the Qur'an in that context; yes, it might be twisted to men's purposes, but this is just more pot calling a kettle black. Low blow. It does not reflect the overwhelming majority, sorry.
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You addressed one element i mentioNed and missed my point. Fleshy emphasis. Physical washings. Animal sacrifices. Pointing toward mecca. Outward issues. Nowhere near out calling kettle black. It's like the jws with focus on blood transfusions, stake not a cross, he'll is grave. I spoke to them. Their focus is on the outward.
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05-03-2015, 03:21 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
NOW this is good discussion! I love this stuff...could read it all day! 
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05-03-2015, 03:43 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
So... a Muslim is going to teach us what the Bible actually means? That's about as funny as a Christian teaching a Muslim what the Koran means. Oh, wait...
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05-03-2015, 03:55 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Last night I paged back and the photos were still there. You really cant see them?
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what photos? Where? I only saw a couple photo's you posted here...big deal. I can post lots of photos here
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-03-2015, 03:56 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I didn't see any tweets and only a few photos posted here without captions
I dont see using other images as unethical when they are not copy written. I do see mis-representing them as something they are not as unethical but I am willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt that it was not their intent.
It could be just a case of thoughtlessness...which as evidenced from this topic, is quite common.
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Last night I paged back and the photos were still there. You really cant see them?
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BTW did you really read what I posted?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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