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06-25-2008, 01:10 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
When he started and what his history is does not invalidate my point.
So, by your assertion then, if I only watch 6 hours of TV at a time, whenever I get the urge, then it is OK by your standards? Just trying to keep all of the statistics straight in my head.
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he was just giving a statistic to show a point of idolatry.
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06-25-2008, 02:15 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by B_Kendrick
HMMM... WPF... Uhhh... Washer Power Forgotten! It's not a disrespect deal, it's a "good humor" deal. My family had been involved with the UPC since the late 40's or early 50's. The disrespect to a a ELDER'S name compared to, in good humor, switching some words to an acronym is like comparing the core of an apple, to a banana peel!!!
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where was that post where an elder was disrespected?
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06-25-2008, 02:17 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by B_Kendrick
Just an example my dear sir! If read that again you will find that I used the number "3" from the tv issue, therefore comparing the number of hours people spend watching tv to praying to explain what devotion is.
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but how did you come up with 3 hours = extreme devotion? why not 1 hour or 6 hours. you r making your own rule up
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-25-2008, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by B_Kendrick
Why don't you tell them Praxeas since you were there and just observed everything! I happened to play the piano every night for choir and church on thursday night!
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but were you wearing cowboy boots? 
BTW did you young fellas seek the advice of an elder on whether to be here or not?
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-25-2008, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by B_Kendrick
I really enjoyed Wed. night! Very powerful! What night were you there Praxeas?
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thurs
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-25-2008, 02:21 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
he was just giving a statistic to show a point of idolatry.
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it doesn't show idolatry. you guys use that term too loosely.
who decided how many hours constitutes devotion?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-25-2008, 02:23 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
btw are any marrieds devoted to their family? wives?
how about you sons and daughters devoted to family? church?
devotion is not idolatry
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-25-2008, 07:36 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
You have seriously got to be kidding. It is a joke that current liberal card carrying members use. Without getting into specifics 35 years is nothing compared to what my family has put into the organization. If fact it is not even close. When I was a firm believer and a card carrying member of this organization we jokingly referred to it as Under Priviliged Children or Uncle Paul's Children. You missed it on this one tstew.
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Dude, you better back off. I don't know who you are - or who you think you are, but I would doubt very seriously that what YOUR family has put into this organization even begins to compare to what this man's family has endured during their "insignificant" 35 years of ministry!
As far as what started this particular part of the conversation - you have no idea what Prax's relationship with PW is now or has been in the past. There are MANY ministers that are peers and/or relatives that in a conversation like this one would be referred to by his first name - because a first-name basis is part of their relationship. There was no disrespect in Prax's post that referenced his first name. I doubt very seriously that Prax would have referenced him as "Phil" if there wasn't some history to their relationship.
On the other hand, I have read posts where a first name was used and it was definitely used with disrespect - I agree with your premise when that occurs.
As far as referring to the UPC by some of the names posted.... it's kind of like family - I can say whatever I want to about them and their idiosyncrasies - but woe be unto an outsider (or a relative who thinks they are better than us) saying the same thing I said! 
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06-25-2008, 07:56 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by B_Kendrick
I am 19, yet i make myself accountable to them because I respect them. I live in their house, and i choose not to rebel.
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My point in asking your age was not about your respect or rebellion...my point was just making sure you were not a 13 or 15 year old young person out here sparring with people much older. It can bread confusion in the home of parents who have no idea what their child is up to.
In my interaction on these forums, I have never liked the idea that a kid can come on and duke it out with adults who have no idea they are dealing with someone's child. That is the one variable that I wish were not here...and it is anothe danger with the internet...you just don't know who you are talking to.
In the act of fairness...I am 41.
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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06-25-2008, 09:54 AM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
but how did you come up with 3 hours = extreme devotion? why not 1 hour or 6 hours. you r making your own rule up
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Well, if you took the time to go back and read the post about, "An average american spends 3 hours watching television a day," then you'd understand!
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