Donald Trump 666 to usher in the Mark of the Beast

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Too late... Lol

Sean is a troll.

He will not answer this question because he does not believe in this passage as you read it.

He will not even attempt to explain it.

Because he doesn't even know what he believes.

Yet, he believes that if you deny his interpretation you will go to hell.

Peace?

Is this guy for real?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did you also believe this when Bill Clinton promised that his administration would "support Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel?

But Bill Clinton did not do anything about it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

But Bill Clinton did not do anything about it.

No one does anything about it. Move the embassy to Jerusalem, who is going to work there? Trump? That’s what they’ll say. If he wants to move it, he can work there. The UN making a stink over what Trump said? Another bunch of bluster. How many UN violations has Israel accumulated? Thank you, no Israel is the United States’ spoiled child, and is allowed to do as she very well pleases.
Trump is going to do something? Wait and see. But as far as this being Biblically prophetic? Some of ya’ll need to start putting some book chapter and verse together. Let’s see what sayeth the Lord.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No one does anything about it. Move the embassy to Jerusalem, who is going to work there? Trump? That’s what they’ll say. If he wants to move it, he can work there. The UN making a stink over what Trump said? Another bunch of bluster. How many UN violations has Israel accumulated? Thank you, no Israel is the United States’ spoiled child, and is allowed to do as she very well pleases.
Trump is going to do something? Wait and see. But as far as this being Biblically prophetic? Some of ya’ll need to start putting some book chapter and verse together. Let’s see what sayeth the Lord.

I wouldn't work there . . . I'd be worried about being bombed.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I wouldn't work there . . . I'd be worried about being bombed.

Exactly my point. No one wants it there.
Only United State presidents and AIPAC.
But, I would like to see an “intelligent” conversation on how Trump is fulfilling prophecy with book, chapter, and verse.

[Amanah]

IF one were a dispensationalist these are the scriptures they would use:

Diaspora and return

Hosea 3:4-5 - For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.

Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD.

Isaiah 66:8 NIV - Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labour than she gives birth to her children.

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth...

Ezekiel 36:11; 24 KJV - And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better [unto you] than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.... For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Isaiah 26:6 NIV - In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.

Isaiah 35:1-2 NIV - The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy....
... the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise.

Psalm 107:2-3 NIV - Let the redeemed of the LORD say this -- those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south.

[Amanah]

and this would be from a literal interpretation to show that there is a rebuilt temple.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Daniel 12 seems to prophesy an animal sacrifice in the last days.

Since the temple in in Jerusalem, anything that Trump does concerning Israel and Jerusalem seems to be a fulfillment of prophecy.

[Sean]

Luke 21

Originally Posted by Sean

As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

They asked Jesus ONLY about the destruction of the temple here, but Jesus gives them more info than they actually asked for, just like Matt. 24...



8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven......


Now this above is the series of General signs before His 2nd coming.



Notice now..."but (before) all these", addressing their original question...

12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

At this point, Jesus is finished with the destruction of Jerusalem explanation in their time and proceeds to speak of His 2nd coming signs...


25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

These above are the signs that Jesus wanted to point out of His 2nd coming in these end times.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Here, Jesus gives us a warning to watch for these signs, before His return...FOR THE WHOLE EARTH....LOOK BELOW

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the (whole earth).

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Did anyone notice DB did not rebut this passage explaining verse 12?

That is called "tunnel vision".

Preterists get that because their doctrines make the walls close in around a verse.

It is great to be able to teach the truth of Jesus speaking to the entire Church age, not just 4 men.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

DB, when did this happen in history?....


Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

When did this happen in history(continued)?.....


Zech 14
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

DB was hoping this would get buried, because he does not want you to see him explain the "OTHER" Jerusalem that he thinks this passage may mean(in the "spirit").