The Persecution of Women in the Church - Page 41

Newman · #**401** 09-15-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Maybe I'm wrong but I believe Judaism blames all evil on women.Because of Eve.
True Bible Christianity is not oppressive to women.
After all without Mary and her part in the virgin birth could redemption have been a reality ?

Bro. Scott- Judaism did not start out blaming the woman for evil. That came with captivity and later with the Helenization that encroached upon the Jews.

Consider that the Ten Commandments told children to honor BOTH their father and mother...

Consider that wisdom was spoken of as a "she" in Proverbs.

Note that finding a wife was then a good thing; compared to rubies.

MissBrattified · #**402** 09-15-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman

So we agree.

Probably.

But...for the purposes of this thread, it must be noted that the ninetyandnine article was written by a WOMAN. Not a female-oppressing
Apostolic man.

SDG · #**403** 09-15-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Probably.

But...for the purposes of this thread, it must be noted that the ninetyandnine article was written by a WOMAN. Not a female-oppressing
Apostolic man.

Maybe she had a gun to her head?

MissBrattified · #**404** 09-15-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Maybe she had a gun to her head?

It wasn't mine.

Felicity · #**405** 09-15-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dora

Ok...yes, Felicity, you are quite lovely and intelligent, but I'm afraid it's your defense of men who would have you surrounded by ushers and escorted to the altar to be prayed through as soon as you walked through the church doors because of the way you look today, that just annoys the snot out of me.

There I said it.

Take me to the cleaners, steam press my hide and hang me out to cure like beef jerky.

Dora.......

You have to look at the whole picture. People believe what they believe and they have a right to do that. There was a time when I believed and thought like they do so I totally understand. Am I going to point the finger at them and put them on my blacklist because of the convictions and beliefs they hold? No! I love many of these people and I respect them too.

I was home this summer and attended every service of the UPC campmeeting. Nobody escorted me to the altar.

In fact, I have never received so many hugs and so much affirmation perhaps ever. It totally blew me away -- the kindness and love that was expressed to me.

I did have a district leader offer to escort me to my seat and parade me down the aisle and across the front of the church to do so. He said he'd be "proud" to take my arm and do that. LOL! Funny!

These attitudes (that you described) do not exist everywhere and sometimes our attitudes determine and affect the attitudes of others.

Coonskinner · #**406** 09-15-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It irritates me that it is assumed that since I abide by fairly conservative Apostolic views, that I must not do so of my accord, that it has been foisted off upon me, and either I am too stupid to know that I have been duped, or too brain-washed to care.

I find that point of view to be the arrogant one.

It is also irritating that my husband is viewed as abusive, simply because he believes that he has an authoritative role in our home, a role which is supported by scripture.

Someone causing me offense is NOT the same as persecution. If it were, there are a few women here who are guilty of persecuting me.
Someone disagreeing with my views or being unsupportive of my views and lifestyle is NOT persecution. If it were, many here would be guilty of persecution.

Another noteworthy post by the inimitable Miss B.

SDG · #**407** 09-15-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Another noteworthy post by the inimitable Miss B.

In a dumbfounding display of role reversal ... Coonskinner is now your cheerleader.

Coonskinner · #**408** 09-15-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhomie

Again Miss. Why are you so defensive. The purpose of this whole forum should be to help. Spiritually speaking if we have the H.G. and there is a Satanic attack against women, don't you think we should help> Please.

The main attack I saw was the one launched against the church.

Dora · #**409** 09-15-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Dora.......

You have to look at the whole picture. People believe what they believe and they have a right to do that. There was a time when I believed and thought like they do so I totally understand. Am I going to point the finger at them and put them on my blacklist because of the convictions and beliefs they hold? No! I love many of these people and I respect them too.

I was home this summer and attended every service of the UPC campmeeting. Nobody escorted me to the altar.

In fact, I have never received so many hugs and so much affirmation perhaps ever. It totally blew me away -- the kindness and love that was expressed to me.

I did have a district leader offer to escort me to my seat and parade me down the aisle and across the front of the church to do so. He said he'd be "proud" to take my arm and do that. LOL! Funny!

These attitudes (that you described) do not exist everywhere and sometimes our attitudes determine and affect the attitudes of others.

Same thing happened to me at General Conference in 2005. OHHHH! They were sooo happy and excited to see me. But I don't think many of them will be inviting me to come sing on their platforms anytime soon. Nope! Don't think so.

Felicity · #**410** 09-15-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dora

Same thing happened to me at General Conference in 2005. OHHHH! They were sooo happy and excited to see me. But I don't think many of them will be inviting me to come sing on their platforms anytime soon. Nope! Don't think so.

Well, that's okay isn't it? You wouldn't expect it, would you?