Question about Acts 2:38: What about the martyrs? - Page 41

Evang.Benincasa · #**401** 08-08-2015, 06:28 PM

Oh, one more thing Arnold Abbot, the KIDNAPPED 90 year old. Sued the City of Fort Lauderdale and won. He was given three citations (because feeding homeless is a misdemeanor) Abbot feeds the homeless on the beach, has been doing it for 20 YEARS. Kidnapped, what a joke.

shazeep · #**402** 08-08-2015, 08:01 PM

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ISIS cuts off heads.

wadr, that is war, and might even be debateable. I know of no one whose head has been cut off, certainly in the US. I do know of staged ISIS beheadings, blurring the reality. What i can verify is my point, which is that you should be more afraid of rogues cops than IS--which is to say not very, as either is fear mongering.

shazeep · #**403** 08-08-2015, 08:08 PM

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There is a ordinance in the City of Fort Lauderdale NOT to feed the homeless downtown, Would you like to know why? Because they cause violence, use the area in front of the downtown library as a toilet. They are homeless because they like to drink, and do drugs. You feed them you aren't helping the situation. Here in Fort Lauderdale you can become obese with all the available services Broward County has available. We have x-homeless in our church, and they are x because they sought Jesus Christ, and not a baloney sandwich given by a Presbyterian who KNOWS better then to go downtown and feed the drug addicts.

well, let's just say that it is arguable who is causing the actual violence, and it is a complex subject. But the guy has been feeding the homeless for X years, in this same manner; or so we hear. The mechanism seems pretty clear now--cause the addiction, then punish the victim for it. Of course no one intends this; addicts are just "All lost."

Evang.Benincasa · #**404** 08-08-2015, 08:19 PM

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wadr, that is war, and might even be debateable. I know of no one whose head has been cut off, certainly in the US. I do know of staged ISIS beheadings, blurring the reality.

You see this is one reason I can't take you seriously, you don't even believe if ISIS actually beheaded anyone, but they were staged? You mean like in acting?
You are confused.

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What i can verify is my point, which is that you should be more afraid of rogues cops than IS--which is to say not very, as either is fear mongering.

Rouge cops? Fear mongering? Listen, YOU are the one who posted the fear porn meme. Not me. You want to bang the drum that American Christians are the White Satan. Listen, your song and dance is old and you are just a Hater Troll.

shazeep · #**405** 08-08-2015, 08:20 PM

actually i was just inciting with those, and would prefer to stick to the point for the moment, EB--even if i can "prove" that you should much rather fear cops than IS. So, yes, that was off.

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Shazeep,

pray forgive this intrusion into your arguement with the honorable elder Bloom. I've beeen on the sidelines watching. For my two cents, it seems that your arguement is with my Lord, and not with the good pastor. My Lord wrote the book, not him. From my first book: let us say that the scriptures require each to wear one red sock, and one blue sock, in order to be saved. Then further imagine that mother Teresa...God rest her soul...failed to do so in her labors of love in Calcutta. Will my Lord give her a pass because of her tremendous efforts in India? Neither pastor Bloom, nor you can say. He alone is the righteous judge of mens souls. But in the mean time, what shall we preach and teach? For us here, we'll be wearing a red sock and a blue sock, and urging others to do the same. Why? Because the scriptures tell us that such is required for salvation. We are not in the business of condemning anyone to hell, but only in showing them the truths of rightly divided scripture.

And since this is the best reply i am likely to get on the matter at hand, i will say that it is adequate for that, but shies away from discovering why the Good Samaritan was considered accepted--indeed, effectively proscribes that--and promotes "They are lost" in the end by default. I do not mean this as condemnation, as i understand how easily one is led to "They are lost."

shazeep · #**406** 08-08-2015, 08:29 PM

i would not pursue this at all, but i know of many good Pents, who would never actually say "They are lost," but would not necessarily disagree with it, either; and they are coming into pain, and don't understand why they are being divided. Or even how. They are wondering where revival is. Where their children are. Afraid to even ask why...well, you get the picture. Afraid to even ask?

Evang.Benincasa · #**407** 08-08-2015, 08:30 PM

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well, let's just say that it is arguable who is causing the actual violence, and it is a complex subject. But the guy has been feeding the homeless for X years, in this same manner; or so we hear. The mechanism seems pretty clear now--cause the addiction, then punish the victim for it. Of course no one intends this; addicts are just "All lost."

It is not arguable, Arnold Abbott, was given citations for misdemeanors. That's kidnapping? Your meme was a flagrant lie, and you got caught posting it to someone who lives here. Arnold Abbott wasn't even charged for the misdemeanors to my knowledge. Judge Lynch last December even lifted the ban on feeding homeless for 30 days. Your meme is a lie, deal with it, say your sorry, and move on.

Abbott hasn't been feeding them for X years but XX years with no hassles, but homeless don't need to be fed they need to be converted, rehabilitated, stop smoking crack rock, stop drinking Ripple.

CAUSE THE ADDICTION? What UFO cult are you currently with? Cause the addiction?

You are a Troll.

Evang.Benincasa · #**408** 08-08-2015, 08:35 PM

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i would not pursue this at all, but i know of many good Pents, who would never actually say "They are lost," but would not necessarily disagree with it, either; and they are coming into pain, and don't understand why they are being divided. Or even how. They are wondering where revival is. Where their children are. Afraid to even ask why...well, you get the picture. Afraid to even ask.

How many apostles does this forum have anyway?

Well, here you go boys and girls we have yet another Internet apostle who teaches that American Christianity is the White Satan.

shazeep · #**409** 08-09-2015, 09:09 AM

ok, i have already said i was mostly just goosing you with the meme--and yes, we create addicts, as they are discovering now, i might have a link for anyone who cares--but it really is intuitive, more or less http://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari...wrong#t-724886

and Western Christianity is a pretty large group. and they led me to Christ. so i didn't mean that in that way, wadr. the point is moot to me now, anyway, as that Pent church has changed its sign, it is now an indie, and those people are gone.

shazeep · #**410** 08-09-2015, 09:44 AM

prolly just a coincidence tho