Rejoicing In the Sabbath: - Page 40

The Matt · #**391** 02-14-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hmm, I didn't have you down as a Sabbateer; (dang, and I always seem to use more eraser than pencil, hang on...)
So, how did you come to this, Matt? Is it the norm in your church? How long have you been hopelessly out of step with the rest of the world? : )

I don't know if its a norm in my church, I never asked. But sundays are spent mostly in church (9-12 and 4:30-9) so I just assumed...I personally feel like the ten commandments are in effect, I just step ahead of that with Jesus's redoing of some of them. I believe in the "just in case" type of thinking. I certainly don't think I'll go to hell for using the seventh day of the week as a day to reflect completely on Jesus.

bbyrd009 · #**392** 02-14-2012, 05:20 PM

Wow, you do some hours at church. And Sabbath. All your life?

bbyrd009 · #**393** 02-14-2012, 05:21 PM

never asked; priceless : )

The Matt · #**394** 02-14-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Wow, you do some hours at church. And Sabbath. All your life?

5-10, 20-22, and now the last two months. 20-22 were the absolute happiest years of my life.

bbyrd009 · #**395** 02-14-2012, 06:26 PM

Ebb and flow are important concepts to grasp in the Kingdom. I don't really get them very well ("timing" is a relative) people with good timing have a good sense of this.
Lol which surely reads as non-sequitur, but I feel you saying "Ebb!" like, pretty loud.

Titus2woman · #**396** 02-14-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I was thinking the same thing. One day it's partial preterism. Then its futurism with Islamic fulfillment. Then its sabbath keeping.

So are you usually flagrantly insulting when you do not win others to your way of thinking? Pettiness of this type should be beneath you... Try to regain your composure. Although you are not particularly convincing in your argument it is not your fault. It's hard to go against the word of God and sound all smart and stuff

Titus2woman · #**397** 02-14-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

No. We get that. We just say Paul taught to keep NO DAYS HOLY in Gal 4:10-11. Please deal with that. Thanks!

You miss Paul's teaching on the issue.

Galatians 4:10-11 "Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain."

It does not say that.Let us just go back a couple of verses to avoid the 'cherry picker' effect.

Gal 4:6-12

"Because you are his children, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts. He is the Holy Spirit. By his power we call God "[Abba.]" Abba means Father.

So you aren't slaves any longer. You are God's children. Because you are his children, he gives you what he promised to give his people.

At one time you didn't know God. You were slaves to gods that are really not gods at all. But now you know God. Even better, God knows you. So why are you turning back to those weak and worthless beliefs? Do you want to be slaves to them all over again?

You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I am afraid for you. I am afraid that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you."

Or rephrased: Before you knew the One True Living God you worshiped false Gods by observing special days and months and years. Do not become enslaved to false gods again now that you have been adopted as God's children by doing that again.

Paul himself observed Sabbath and would have looked kind of silly if this were about the fourth commandment...

bbyrd009 · #**398** 02-14-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Think of this. The sabbath showed man working physically BEFORE he would rest. And that was demanded. It slipped right into Law since it went along with the whole system of self making self improved.

The church distinctly gathered the first day of the week. Think of the spiritual message. WORSHIP BEFORE we work. Seventh day of rest denotes work before rest. First day of WORSHIP (not rest) denotes a SPIRITUAL REST before work. And this is what the cross did! We entered into the death of Christ by the cross and walk in newness of life.

The first day of the week was when Christ arose. That is the day the church gathered in Acts. It spiritually depicts resurrection LIFE before we work, to actually give us the power TO WORK. First day of the week is not a sabbath so it is a strawman to say those who worship on sundays got a tradition of sabbath changed from seventh day to first day.

We see the resurrection power of the Lord come forth in us BEFORE we work. And that resurrection life is a SPIRITUAL REST.

This is strong. I knew there was more to the "day" thing to be revealed, to me anyway. And the Bible gives plenty of clues that we aren't to go igmo on a certain day, but I never had a clear explanation for a spiritual Sabbath Sunday that I liked, ty.