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Old 06-24-2008, 07:05 PM
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting

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So lets just disrespect other saints pastors! Is that how you do things Praxeas? What a terrible way to live... St. Mark, your pastor is Bro. Emory to me, it's Elder Epley to me. It's Bro. Young, Bro. Wilson, Bro. Keyes! It's all the same to me!
It is incredible to me that you can jump Prax for being disrepectful simply for referring to a man by his given name, follow it up by claiming to repect a list of leaders...but respond by laughing and saying it was a riot to refer to the organization that these men serve in as "Under Privileged Children"...then follow it up by calling it "Ultimate Pressure Church".
I find the latter to be much more disrespectful than the former. It is the lack of consistency that I find so disheartening these days. Just a tendency to dig in and say what I do is right and what you do is wrong without any sense of objectivity.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:06 PM
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It is incredible to me that you can jump Prax for being disrepectful simply for referring to a man by his given name, follow it up by claiming to repect a list of leaders...but respond by laughing and saying it was a riot to refer to the organization that these men serve in as "Under Privileged Children"...then follow it up by calling it "Ultimate Pressure Church".
I find the latter to be much more disrespectful than the former. It is the lack of consistency that I find so disheartening these days. Just a tendency to dig in and say what I do is right and what you do is wrong without any sense of objectivity.
he even said low blow and laughed
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:15 PM
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what u r implying is anything less than 3 hours is not devotion?

people r not praying to tv sets. they r being entertained or watching something of interest like news or history


this always makes me laugh. all that money when you can read the newspaper or get a book from the library about history
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:39 PM
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this always makes me laugh. all that money when you can read the newspaper or get a book from the library about history
for many its not a lot of money.

newspapers cost money too and its expensive and more time consuming to drive to the library just for news and a history book.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:41 PM
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Slow down everybody. Under Privileged Children is an old joke that even card carrying members joke about. I got it from Charles Mahaney. It is supposed to be funny, not a put-down.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:44 PM
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Their internal filters might not work, but I am asking IF they can filter TV like the INTERNET they would TV be ok?
You cannot filter something that is moving. Especially live. Filters are not prophets.
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The Internet is easier to control than TV...On the net if you don't want bad stuff you just don't go, So with TV on the net if you don't want it just don't go to the websites.

Most bad stuff on the net you have to willingly go get. Filters can be by passed if one wants. I don't see how TV is worse than the NET. We have TV here at home and there is NO PORN. There is not even rated R movies.You can flip and flip and flip channels all you want and not see any nudity or hear cussing.

So to be consistant IMHO if one takes a stand against TV they need to do the same with Internet
If your pastor obeys the affirmation statement he signs every 2 years then you are in disobedience to your pastors belief.
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You cannot filter something that is moving. Especially live. Filters are not prophets.
of course you can. a filter prevents content. the net has live content
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:48 PM
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If your pastor obeys the affirmation statement he signs every 2 years then you are in disobedience to your pastors belief.
no i am not. first of all i do not own a tv. the affirmation statement is only 4 licensed ministers
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Re: Ventura, California Family Camp Meeting

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Slow down everybody. Under Privileged Children is an old joke that even card carrying members joke about. I got it from Charles Mahaney. It is supposed to be funny, not a put-down.
When I see it used by non-card carrying members and former members who have generally negative things to say about the org, it does seem more like a put-down and less funny. It is not funny to me when those people call the organization that my father has sacrificed greatly for and served for 35 years "Under Priveleged Children". I suppose that "Ultimate Pressure Church" is another old one that all the card carrying members sit around and joke about.
I may have a difference of opinion than some people, but I try my best to be respectful even in disagreement.
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