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Old 10-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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I hope the rest of the Hairy Ticks leave too! They need to get the presideing prelate to take off also!

Horace Smith is siding with Braizer from what i was told- now that is like WOW! a big mess! IF your top leader is siding with those who are leaving, what signal does that send to the rest of the body?? WHY should they stay?
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:34 AM
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I love Bishop Brazier and Bishop Noel Jones, PAW will never be the same. These are great men of God. Not really concerned why they left, just content in knowing they are wise men and they hear from God.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:04 AM
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I love Bishop Brazier and Bishop Noel Jones, PAW will never be the same. These are great men of God. Not really concerned why they left, just content in knowing they are wise men and they hear from God.
Thank God!


The PAW needs to not EVER be the same. these guys need to join some baptist organization.

GT Haywood has finnallly stopped turning over in his grave.

The PAW is a great organizaiton that needs to return to its former glory. Big churches with empty messages are NOT the answer!!!!
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:05 AM
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Horace Smith is siding with Braizer from what i was told- now that is like WOW! a big mess! IF your top leader is siding with those who are leaving, what signal does that send to the rest of the body?? WHY should they stay?
I am hoping this is a signal that the old guard is flexing a little muscle and intends to move the organization back to being Apostolic.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:07 AM
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Thank God!


The PAW needs to not EVER be the same. these guys need to join some baptist organization.

GT Haywood has finnallly stopped turning over in his grave.

The PAW is a great organizaiton that needs to return to its former glory. Big churches with empty messages are NOT the answer!!!!

so i take it you don't care much for Jones and braizer??


I wonder what chuckie Ellis will do ?? he has the other Large PAW church in Detroit.

HIs uncle had a great church in chicago but is serving time in prison
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:08 AM
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I am hoping this is a signal that the old guard is flexing a little muscle and intends to move the organization back to being Apostolic.

standards too ???
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:16 AM
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standards too ???
Thad, on standards, I think there should be room for a wide range. On doctrine, I have adovated that the UPCI allow PCI and PAJC views.

however Brazier and the rest of these guys have abandoned Oneness doctrine, and have embraced all manner of false doctrine that have been rejected by every stripe of Apostolic movements.


I believe that we need to be inclusive of the Pan-Apostolic movement but when a guys quits being Apostolic, we dont have to continue being inclusive.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:20 AM
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They have had churches that have been preaching Three god preachers for a while. It was more than standards. Hey can anyone name me 10 PAW preachers who made the big time on National Television?
That is a lie. I have never heard anyone preach that there are "Three God's and you have not either.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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That is a lie. I have never heard anyone preach that there are "Three God's and you have not either.

I think this is a Oneness reference to Trinitarian teaching - no ?
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