THe Current PCI Beliefs

[freeatlast]

Gotta say I am in agreement with my brothers on the bible (or former PCI view) doctrine of salvation.

It's not near as confusing as some of ya all (3 to 7 steppers) try to make it.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Welcome Sam!!! We missed you!!!!

Well, I'm on GNC, actually been there for quite some time.
I'm also on forums called Bible Talk, Apostolic Library, and Christian Koinonia.

[SDG]

Sam ... I'm so glad ... that I repented of my sins ...and born of God in 1980.

endued w/ power when I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost [Oct 4, 1981]

and

obeyed His command to be water baptized in Jesus name [Nov. 8,1981]




EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS ... BRONX, NY

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

1. Repentance, being sorry, and turning from sin, brings forgiveness of sin. The Blood of Christ, shed at the death of Christ, takes away our sin when we die to sin at repentance. A p[erson who has truly repented and had his soul cleasned by the Blood of Christ, is ready to meet the Lord.

2. Once a person repents, he should be instucted as to the purpose of water baptism and, as an act of obedience to the Word of God, is to be baptized in water by immersion in the Name of Jesus Christ. This is his response of obedience to being a child of God.

3. God gave the promise of the Holy Ghost as enduement of power enabling us to live a victorious Christian life, and through the Holy Ghost, we are raise in newness of Life. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

4. A Christian is to live a godly life that goes beyond a mere dress code. All that he does, with special emphasis on conduct and conversation, is to be holy. He is to keep himself unspotted from the world and live a life in conformity to the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

Good summation ... except that I'd add to #1 that we are born again/spiritually regenerated at that point - not just forgiven.

I'd also emphasize the necessity of water baptism for salvation. I just don't see how a person can be saved without it.

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Good summation ... except that I'd add to #1 that we are born again/spiritually regenerated at that point - not just forgiven.

I'd also emphasize the necessity of water baptism for salvation. I just don't see how a person can be saved without it.

You are correct. When sins are forgiven, we become new creatures in Christ as Paul taught. We are regenerated... we die to sin, and are made alive in Christ.

I do believe in the necessity of water baptism as obedience to what the Bible teaches. Baptism is that first step a new born Christian tales in completely surrendering his all to the Lord.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

You are correct. When sins are forgiven, we become new creatures in Christ as Paul taught. We are regenerated... we die to sin, and are made alive in Christ.

I do believe in the necessity of water baptism as obedience to what the Bible teaches. Baptism is that first step a new born Christian tales in completely surrendering his all to the Lord.

Then I think we're pretty much in total agreement here!

Except one other thing........ I don't think we do baptism right. I think repentance and baptism are supposed to go together like hand in glove. I think we make too much separation between the two because it's pretty plain in scripture they're very very much linked together in regard to forgiveness and repentance.

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Then I think we're in total agreement here!

Maybe, but... well you're a woman and well...if I agree with ya that may mean you are 'surpin' my authority as a manly man and, well...you know I can't have you 'surpin' my authorty.

I appreciate your spirit, you say what you mean and mean what you say without being mean about it!

[ManOfWord]

I'm in agreement here.

I believe that the scripures teach that we are justified at repentance. To me, if a person resists water baptism, I question whether they have actually been justified. If you surrender, you surrender!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

You are correct. When sins are forgiven, we become new creatures in Christ as Paul taught. We are regenerated... we die to sin, and are made alive in Christ.

I do believe in the necessity of water baptism as obedience to what the Bible teaches. Baptism is that first step a new born Christian tales in completely surrendering his all to the Lord.

Willful disobedience would constitute unbelief.

......The first step of many in a wonderful faith walk ... from faith to faith.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I would venture to guess that on AFF folks with "PCI Beliefs" concerning salvation differ as much as the Oneness understanding differs from Apostolic to Apostolic. I think it would be interesting to see if that is a correct surmising. So would those of you that are what we call PCI in doctrine please explain where you stand in regards to salvation.

Pardon and forgiveness of sins is obtained by genuine repentance, a confessing
and forsaking of sins. We are justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 5:1).
John the Baptist preached repentance, Jesus proclaimed it, and the apostles emphasized
it to both Jews and Gentiles (Acts 2:38, 11:18, 17:30).

The word "repentance" means a change of views and purpose, change of heart,
change of mind, change of life, transformation, etc.

Jesus said, "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3).

Luke 24:47 says, "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached
in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

In my opinion, this repentance experience is salvation/justification/regeneration.