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05-11-2013, 08:57 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Islam is such a peaceful religion.

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Christianity is such a peaceful religion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nl-R6pFSQI
In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity. Prior to World War II Hitler had promoted "positive Christianity", a movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy.[
I am sure that the next "positive christianity" will be a movement that purges Muslim elements
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05-11-2013, 09:39 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
Identify a more violent religion than Islam on the earth TODAY.
I await.
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05-11-2013, 09:55 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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I need a cool phrase like "Clear and Present Danger" to give me a weird charge too.
Idly wondering how many Muslim countries have you been to again? You DO know that the Pope is visiting Egypt to visit his counterpart this week right?
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Who is the Popes counterpart? You mean the Coptic Bishop?
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05-11-2013, 10:02 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Identify a more violent religion than Islam on the earth TODAY.
I await.
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Christianity is the most violent religion on the earth today
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05-11-2013, 10:02 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Who is the Popes counterpart? You mean the Coptic Bishop?
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He's their version of their Pope or so it is said
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05-12-2013, 06:47 AM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Christianity is the most violent religion on the earth today
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That is the most absurd statement anyone could ever make. It is a very revealing thing to say for the discerning reader. Would you care to support that with documentation as we have been careful to do?
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05-12-2013, 12:24 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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That is the most absurd statement anyone could ever make. It is a very revealing thing to say for the discerning reader. Would you care to support that with documentation as we have been careful to do?
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Sure.
Christianity's latest contribution to society:
03/11/13 The FBI has arrested a former Missouri pastor wanted on child sexual abuse charges in New Orleans. George Spencer, 48, was arrested Friday on several charges of forcible sodomy of a child and child molestation by the FBI New Orleans Violent Task Force.
04/02/13 FRANKLIN COUNTY, Ala. (WHNT) – A former pastor in Franklin County is charged with sexual torture and abuse. Freddy Hovater, 72, was arrested on October 1, 2012 and a grand jury just indicted him on the charges. Sheriff Shannon Oliver says the abuse happened for nearly a year inside Hovater’s home in Spruce Pine. The victim was an 8-year-old girl. Her family attended Hovater’s church.
01/15/13 NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A pastor known for promoting corporal punishment has been accused of physically abusing a woman for 25 years, beginning during her childhood. The Rev. Larry Tomczak, an associate pastor at Bethel World Outreach Church in Davidson County near Brentwood, Tenn., was named in a Maryland lawsuit filed against leaders of Sovereign Grace Ministries, a denomination he helped found in the 1980s. The suit was originally filed in October by three alleged victims of abuse and was amended Friday to add five others. All eight were given pseudonyms. It alleges that Tomczak, who lives in Franklin, Tenn., and other church leaders covered up sexual abuse in the denomination and at a Christian school in Gaithersburg, Md., in the 1980s and 1990s.
05/02/13 HARLAN, Ky. — A jury has found a former pastor in Eastern Kentucky guilty of sex charges involving a girl younger than 14. The Harlan Daily Enterprise (http://bit.ly/10uVPZm) reports the jury returned the verdict Wednesday against 38-year-old Jeremy Caraway. Caraway is the former pastor of Loyall Church of God in Harlan County. Jurors found him guilty on charges of rape, sodomy and sex abuse and recommended the maximum 20-year prison sentence.
05/03/13 KANAWHA COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA -- A congregation is in shock after their pastor was arrested and charged with three counts of sexual abuse by a parent, guardian or custodian. “[The church] is in limbo, don't know what we're going to do,” said a member of the United Gospel Mission who asked not to be identified because of the nature of the crimes.
2 days ago: A Corinth clergyman has been arrested after he barricaded a young girl in his office and “begged” her to remove her clothes for almost two hours. According to an affidavit released by the Corinth Police Department, Pastor Jeffery Dale Williams of The Church of Corinth was identified on five different audio recordings asking the female to take off her clothes so he could see “eye candy” on March 30, 2013. Corinth police arrested Williams on Wednesday, May 1 and charged him with attempted sexual performance on a child – a third degree felony.
In 2012 in the US:
On Aug. 4, teenagers pelted a mosque in Hayward, Calif., with fruit. On Aug. 5, Wade Michael Page murdered six congregants and wounded a police officer at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, quite possibly because he thought the Sikhs were Muslim. That same day, a man vandalized a mosque in North Smithfield, R.I. On Aug. 6, a mosque in Joplin, Mo., was burned to the ground. On Aug. 7, two women threw pieces of pork at the site of a proposed Islamic center in Ontario, Calif. On Aug. 10, a man allegedly shot a pellet rifle at a mosque near Chicago while people prayed inside. On Aug. 12, attackers fired paintball guns at a mosque in Oklahoma City, and a homemade bomb filled with acid was thrown at an Islamic school in Lombard, Ill. On Aug. 15, assailants threw a Molotov cocktail at the home of a Muslim family in Panama City, Fla.
You mention the violence in Egypt. What you left out was widely reported on CNN:
The violence in the city of Khosous, north of Cairo, broke out after Coptic Christians drew crosses on the walls of a Muslim school, angering members of the Muslim community, said spokesman Ahmed Osman.
Some of those caught in the clashes pulled out weapons and live ammunition.
The alleged perpetrators and other Christians took shelter inside a Coptic church, Osman said. Angry members of the Muslim community tried to storm the building, but security forces arrived in time to prevent them.
We won't even get into the coverups of the alter-boy diddling catholic church. The above are randomly picked recent stories limited to clergy only. Shall we get into the membership next?
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05-12-2013, 01:08 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
You rightly point out several horrible crimes committed by men who should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There is simply no justification for ANY of the atrocities you list.
It should be understood that the vast majority of Apostolic Pentecostals are pacifists and will not serve in the military except the occasional non-combatant role. Most are conscientious objectors, and will not take a life.
There is a vast difference between a list of criminal acts that are repulsive by their very nature and the comparison of those acts to the systematic, worldwide campaign of terror being waged in the name of islam. You cite acts of violence against mosques. Those acts were unjustified and should be prosecuted. But that is nothing in comparison to the regularity with which Christian Churches are burned and the members killed, raped and tortured in muslim countries. There is no death penalty in the U.S. or any other Western Nation for converting to islam. There is no death penalty in "Christian" nations for proselytizing.
Your statement was that "Christianity is the most violent religion on the earth today." You have failed to make your point because it simply is not true. In fact, much of the foreign aid to third world nations, many of which are predominately muslim, comes from Christian Aid Groups.
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05-12-2013, 01:23 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Originally Posted by larrylyates
You rightly point out several horrible crimes committed by men who should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There is simply no justification for ANY of the atrocities you list.
It should be understood that the vast majority of Apostolic Pentecostals are pacifists and will not serve in the military except the occasional non-combatant role. Most are conscientious objectors, and will not take a life.
There is a vast difference between a list of criminal acts that are repulsive by their very nature and the comparison of those acts to the systematic, worldwide campaign of terror being waged in the name of islam. You cite acts of violence against mosques. Those acts were unjustified and should be prosecuted. But that is nothing in comparison to the regularity with which Christian Churches are burned and the members killed, raped and tortured in muslim countries. There is no death penalty in the U.S. or any other Western Nation for converting to islam. There is no death penalty in "Christian" nations for proselytizing.
Your statement was that "Christianity is the most violent religion on the earth today." You have failed to make your point because it simply is not true. In fact, much of the foreign aid to third world nations, many of which are predominately muslim, comes from Christian Aid Groups.
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The same can be said of the world's billion Muslims and in their countries where terrorists are captured, tried, and subsequently and cheerfully and publicly and rightfully executed in Muslim courts by Muslim executioners.
You however choose to lump criminals from the Muslim community with all Muslims and have earned the right to be lumped in with those within your own community who use their place in a religious leadership position to commit crimes there.
The christian church is well-known for covering up these crimes. Without secular authorities and secular law to prosecute them crimes by religious leadership would never be prosecuted from within any more than lies by religious leadership are exposed from within. This is what past and current history reflect and the christian church certainly hasn't changed.
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05-12-2013, 10:25 PM
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Re: Islamic Terrorists are Profile Serial Killers
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
The same can be said of the world's billion Muslims and in their countries where terrorists are captured, tried, and subsequently and cheerfully and publicly and rightfully executed in Muslim courts by Muslim executioners.
You however choose to lump criminals from the Muslim community with all Muslims and have earned the right to be lumped in with those within your own community who use their place in a religious leadership position to commit crimes there.
The christian church is well-known for covering up these crimes. Without secular authorities and secular law to prosecute them crimes by religious leadership would never be prosecuted from within any more than lies by religious leadership are exposed from within. This is what past and current history reflect and the christian church certainly hasn't changed.
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You have no clue what Christianity is. But its hard to blame you, when most Americans have no clue what Christianity is.
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