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KeptByTheWord · #31 10-17-2016, 10:52 AM

The Feast of Tabernacles is happening right now, it started at sunset last night. Something might just take place in the next week or so....

KeptByTheWord · #32 10-17-2016, 10:55 AM

We know that Jesus fulfilled the first three feasts: He was crucified on Passover, buried on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, resurrected on the Feast of First Fruits, and sent His Spirit on the Feast of Pentecost.

There are three feasts left to be fulfilled: Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tabernacles.

The Feast of Tabernacles started last night at sunset.

mfblume · #33 10-17-2016, 11:03 AM

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We know that Jesus fulfilled the first three feasts: He was crucified on Passover, buried on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, resurrected on the Feast of First Fruits, and sent His Spirit on the Feast of Pentecost.

There are three feasts left to be fulfilled: Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tabernacles.

The Feast of Tabernacles started last night at sunset.

The real question is HOW those last three feasts are to be fulfilled by Jesus.

KeptByTheWord · #34 10-17-2016, 11:04 AM

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The real question is HOW those last three feasts are to be fulfilled by Jesus.

And that is right. Most in endtime prophecy don't even consider the feasts as part of their studies. But they should.

mfblume · #35 10-17-2016, 11:08 AM

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And that is right. Most in endtime prophecy don't even consider the feasts as part of their studies. But they should.

But are they even meant to foreshadow end times? What did the Lord intend by those feasts, is my question. The apostles and Jesus never said. Or if they did, what was it they did say?

KeptByTheWord · #36 10-17-2016, 11:11 AM

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But are they even meant to foreshadow end times? What did the Lord intend by those feasts, is my question.

The last feast, Feast of Tabernacles, is an amazing one. There are similarities to it and the New Jerusalem, Rev. 21:2-6 "Behold the tabernacle of God is with men and he will dwell with them"

The Feast of Tabernacles is celebrated when the harvest has finished. It also celebrates a foreshadowing of God coming to dwell with men.

mfblume · #37 10-17-2016, 11:16 AM

This is an interesting subject.

What I mean about the feasts, is I wonder if they are more about SALVATION and our progression in salvation rather than eschatology.

For example, people assume they refer to eschatology because the new covenant STARTED with the fulfillment of Passover with Jesus on the cross and the unleavened bread and the feast of firstfruits are all part of the three days Jesus died and was buried to resurrect. Then there's the day of pentecost next when salvation actually took place. So, why would not the trumpets, atonement and tabernacles feasts depict how the new covenant ENDS? Hence, END TIMES in the popular manner of speaking?

But what if they were more about salvation and how we progress in maturity?

We see the cross occur in passover, unleavened bread and firstfruits. Pentecost is when we are born again. AND TRUMPETS< ATONEMENT and TABERNACLES speak more about coming to maturity?

One brother showed me how Trumpets parallels Passover, and Atonement parallels Unleavened bread, and Tabernacles parallels firstfruits. And in that parallel we see what Christ experienced in the spring feasts fully fulfilled in us in a spiritual maturing sense in the autumn feasts.

That would would put PENTECOST in the middle of the two parallel sets of three feasts, making the connection for us to get from Christ's experience to our experience paralleling His own! So, I have been considering this for years and have to get into some time for study about it, but it would not be an endtime issue at all if that were the case. And to be honest with you, that idea witnesses more with my spirit than the endtime concept, anyway.

KeptByTheWord · #38 10-17-2016, 11:23 AM

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This is an interesting subject.

What I mean about the feasts, is I wonder if they are more about SALVATION and our progression in salvation rather than eschatology.

For example, people assume they refer to eschatology because the new covenant STARTED with the fulfillment of Passover with Jesus on the cross and the unleavened bread and the feast of firstfruits are all part of the three days Jesus died and was buried to resurrect. Then there's the day of pentecost next when salvation actually took place. So, why would not the trumpets, atonement and tabernacles feasts depict how the new covenant ENDS? Hence, END TIMES in the popular manner of speaking?

But what if they were more about salvation and how we progress in maturity?

We see the cross occur in passover, unleavened bread and firstfruits. Pentecost is when we are born again. AND TRUMPETS< ATONEMENT and TABERNACLES speak more about coming to maturity?

One brother showed me how Trumpets parallels Passover, and Atonement parallels Unleavened bread, and Tabernacles parallels firstfruits. And in that parallel we see what Christ experienced in the spring feasts fully fulfilled in us in a spiritual maturing sense in us in the autumn feasts.

That would would put PENTECOST in the middle of the two parallel sets of three feasts, making the connection for us to get from Christ's experience to our experience paralleling His own! So, I have been considering this for years and have to get into some time for study about it, but it would not be an endtime issue at all if that were the case. And to be honest with you, that idea witnesses more with my spirit than the endtime concept, anyway.

I have not considered the fact that 6 of the feasts are parallel and Pentecost is in the middle. That is very interesting, and powerful indeed if so.

I agree with you... there is no doubt in my mind that we should take the feasts seriously as important with God, because the death, burial, resurrection, and infilling of the spirit came on exact feast days. And the best question is how will we see the remainder of the feasts fulfilled.

However, the fact that the New Jerusalem seems to be tied in with the Feast of Tabernacles, in Revelation 21:2-6 seems to point to more of a finished work, and that is why I think it does need to be considered in eschatology.

mfblume · #39 10-17-2016, 11:25 AM

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I have not considered the fact that 6 of the feasts are parallel and Pentecost is in the middle. That is very interesting, and powerful indeed if so.

I agree with you... there is no doubt in my mind that we should take the feasts seriously as important with God, because the death, burial, resurrection, and infilling of the spirit came on exact feast days. And the best question is how will we see the remainder of the feasts fulfilled.

However, the fact that the New Jerusalem seems to be tied in with the Feast of Tabernacles, in Revelation 21:2-6 seems to point to more of a finished work, and that is why I think it does need to be considered in eschatology.

It may be both! I've often seen how imagery is a pattern God uses to apply to more than one issue.

In one sense, we have our personal book of Revelation. We need a breaking to occur in our flesh so the wrath of God can put down the old man and see the Isaac element in us rise above the Ishmael element. And we grow to a maturity to come to a city of Peace, Jerusalem, as Israel ended their Exodus in Jerusalem after leaving Egypt. And then there's what I believe is Revelation's main point, the changeover of covenants and some mopping up God had to do in the first century. So, typology can be applied in more than one way.

KeptByTheWord · #40 10-17-2016, 11:30 AM

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It may be both! I've often seen how imagery is a pattern God uses to apply to more than one issue.

In one sense, we have our personal book of Revelation. We need a breaking to occur in our flesh so the wrath of God can put down the old man and see the Isaac element in us rise above the Ishmael element. And we grow to a maturity to come to a city of Peace, Jerusalem, as Israel ended their Exodus in Jerusalem after leaving Egypt. And then there's what I believe is Revelation's main point, the changeover of covenants and some mopping up God had to do in the first century. So, typology can be applied in more than one way.

Oh yes, there is no doubt that God can use a pattern to show us in different ways what He wants us to understand. I like your example of how the Feasts could symbolize our progression of our walk with Jesus, and then also have a greater significance in how the New Covenant begins and ends too.

It is very powerful, multi-layered, and exciting!