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Old 04-29-2015, 12:24 PM
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The police arrested Gray on Sunday, April 12th and was taken to the hospital that day.

On Thursday, April 16th, Gray went into a coma.

On Sunday, April 19th, Gray died.

What happened while he was in the hospital between Sunday afternoon and Thursday when he went into a coma?

With the alleged pre-ex condition, did Doctors attempt another surgery? If so, were there complications during or after the surgery which caused Gray's condition to deteriorate?

Per the LA Times, the autopsy concluded that he died of an injury to his spine, but there were no indications of force or bruising.
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Old 04-29-2015, 12:32 PM
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The police arrested Gray on Sunday, April 12th and was taken to the hospital that day.

On Thursday, April 16th, Gray went into a coma.

On Sunday, April 19th, Gray died.

What happened while he was in the hospital between Sunday afternoon and Thursday when he went into a coma?

With the alleged pre-ex condition, did Doctors attempt another surgery? If so, were there complications during or after the surgery which caused Gray's condition to deteriorate?

Per the LA Times, the autopsy concluded that he died of an injury to his spine, but there were no indications of force or bruising.
Again, that is why I posted the daily kos article that everyone made fun of. There multiple pics of the cops having him on the ground folded up and their body weight on his neck via their knee. KOS said it was anatomically possible that this action by the police is what caused the neck injury. Especially when you notice the fact that he was walking just fine when arrested and after he was carried limply away. It would make more sense if he had a previous injury.
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Old 04-29-2015, 12:54 PM
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Again, that is why I posted the daily kos article that everyone made fun of. There multiple pics of the cops having him on the ground folded up and their body weight on his neck via their knee. KOS said it was anatomically possible that this action by the police is what caused the neck injury. Especially when you notice the fact that he was walking just fine when arrested and after he was carried limply away. It would make more sense if he had a previous injury.
The problem with that theory though is the autopsy doesn't indicate force or bruising.

BTW, I've seen healthy protestors and other people being arrested by police go "limp" just to make it difficult for the officers trying to put them in cruisers or wagons.
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:50 PM
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IMO there will always be a {blame whitey} shouted from those who make a living from it. Al, Jesse, Louis, Rev. Wright and others are not going to give up their cash cow.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:04 PM
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What about Egypt and the Nubian empire?
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:44 PM
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The Police problems are not race. Its not just blacks that are the subject, they just seem to be the majority. But whites and Latinos get it too.

Go to Youtube and search police brutality.
I think that's what this boils down to.

The Justice System has effected African Americans and Latinos "differently" than other racial groups, but this has a lot more to do with the war on drugs and how prohibition has ended up then actual race.

Prohibition in the 1920s effected Italians and the Irish in a large way because that was the main demographic of inner cities at the time. The war on drugs has hit blacks and latinos for the same reason.

Fortunately this kind of discussion is finally had because of politicians like Rand Paul and Michael Steele who really don't care about the racial politics of the day and want to confront the actual problems facing black Americans.

The problem is you still have the Urban League/NAACP types that want to fight this on some civil rights movement type level.............. that fight is no longer relevant.

The War on Drug may have had good intentions............. but horrible effects.

It takes critical thinkers to realize that corruption in law enforcement is a human problem............ and if effects naturally those who deal with police more.

Baltimore is been a police state for years, I live it: random searches, daily harassment, cameras on every block. The Alex Jones types need only to look at the Northern Cities of America to see first hand what American liberalism and neo-liberalism can do in a major city.

However until you get race baiters on BOTH SIDES to realize any of this you're not getting anywhere. We really have to wait till the old guard of each party dies off.

You can't continue to see the rhetoric of "all white people are bad" and "let's start a white civil rights movement" and expect unity in this nation. No one can deny that police brutality exists because of the recent high profile incidents caught on camera. Now we've seen violence boil over in Bmore's streets and there's a lot of disgust behind it, but at least it's starting to shift the conversation in America to realizing that there are segments of this country where 45% of High School students AREN'T going to school. The Mayor of Baltimore, just like the last five mayors, has been actively trying to improve the "harbor" and the "college communities" while sweeping neighborhoods like Mr. Gray's under the rug... Not soooo anymore.... and there's my rant for the day.
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Check out this link. I don't think this man is correct on all that he says, but I can says he is sincere and has powerful message. I know black people who are doing a good job in life, but in statistics their culture needs a revival to God.
What effects African Americans is that we get the "worst" of American culture in general.

Laziness, lack of responsibility, lack of a desire to succeed, etc are American culture problems..........

......African Americans have been dealing with it longer then most of "mainstream" America though. The inner cities have reached crisis point largely because of what is "cultural" in America. It's not really a "black problem"...............

......... and even if it is it won't be just a "black problem" forever.
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We need a Christian Civil Rights Movement.
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i would say that we just need to exercise our civil rights; which the government encourages us all to not do.
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