Is suicide a sin?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Livelystone

I am with you

It is hard to imagine that the one who told us not to seek after earthly things would hold it against us if life became so hurtful and disappointing that we lost all desire to live but finally found the courage to take the last step.

I think where a lot of the problem is we hear to much about the successes of a few in comparison to the plights of the masses who have it much worse than us.

There is no courage in committing suicide.

Try telling the spouse and children left behind how courageous it was to commit suicide.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Sean

Revelation 21:7-9King James Version (KJV)

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Suicide is not my idea of being an OVERCOMER.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by n david

There is no courage in committing suicide.

Try telling the spouse and children left behind how courageous it was to commit suicide.

My sister in Law did it in 2010, right before her HONOR STUDENT daughters' graduation, because of hidden depression.

Totally selfish act.

[shazeep]

yup. cult of the self, at the end of the day. The climax of a pity party. How messed up to diminish a daughter's accomplishments!

[Livelystone]

Originally Posted by Sean

Revelation 21:7-9King James Version (KJV)

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.




Suicide is not my idea of being an OVERCOMER.

Easier said than done

Do you live with unbearable pain and a long term terminal disease that guarantees a horrible death outside of any divine intervention?

If the church(s) offered the hope that they should be able to through multiple healings of persons dealing with major health issues, you could rightly point your finger at the destitute.

What if your only water supply guaranteed you becoming terminal ill when all you have for further than you can walk is parched land with no water?

[shazeep]

well, you frame this as pointing a finger at someone, when that is not what is going on at all. And, i would say that the real Church, of Living Stones, is misrepresented here as well. This ignores that major health issues are usually self-inflicted, or at least may be sent from God. I know this seems harsh, but if your only water supply is poisoned, build a still. Or pray a prayer of faith over your water. Or move.

But "continue to drink poisoned water until i'm so bad off i choose suicide" is just not overcoming, with all due respect. The correct answer is always going to be "Turn back to God, and stop being so selfish" imo.

[Livelystone]

The majority of deaths in Hospice are assisted suicide through pain meds that shut the body down before the terminal cause fulfills its destiny.

However this method is accepted while the bullet through the brain gets persons condemned........... bummer

Does anyone think quality Hospice organizations would survive if they catered to the homeless the same as they cater to home owners?

Seems to be a lot of privileged persons here

[Livelystone]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, you frame this as pointing a finger at someone, when that is not what is going on at all. And, i would say that the real Church, of Living Stones, is misrepresented here as well. This ignores that major health issues are usually self-inflicted, or at least may be sent from God. I know this seems harsh, but if your only water supply is poisoned, build a still. Or pray a prayer of faith over your water. Or move.

But "continue to drink poisoned water until i'm so bad off i choose suicide" is just not overcoming, with all due respect.

Death and sickness are the results of sin.

The only thing that keeps us every day if the hand of the Lord holding back the hand of satan

Meanwhile, try going to the wastelands in Africa and tell the people living there they need to either build a still or move

Fair enough?

You need to wake up some

[shazeep]

Hey, what if "quality hospice organizations" is an oxymoron? i personally find that method at least as reprehensible as a bullet.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Livelystone

Death and sickness are the results of sin.

The only thing that keeps us every day if the hand of the Lord holding back the hand of satan

Amen!

Originally Posted by Livelystone

Meanwhile, try going to the wastelands in Africa and tell the people living there they need to either build a still or move

why would i do this? it is not my business to interfere in God's will for that people--who incidentally have enough sunlight to build solar stills, along with voices to raise to God, if they wished.