Where do one steppers go to church?

[MarcBee]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Much of it is in indoctrination.

But when it comes to teaching about matters of faith and religion, what isn't indoctrination? Or, what shouldn't be indoctrination? (rhetorical questions.)

Only when one admits, "I don't know the answer, so there's wiggle room on that subject," --seems only then is teaching any belief not indoctrination. But in admitting that, one is simultaneously admitting the Word of God is not clear enough to make a clear decision--when the scripture claims the god will lead you to All Truth. Either way, "indoctrination" ought not be in a perjorative term to Christians, IMO.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

When I read the bible now I see one step all over it.

When we left God told me to read the Bible like a new born babe without my denominational glasses to cloud my judgement...

Interesting, I had somewhat the opposite experience. I started out A of G, was happy there for one year, received HG, spoke in tongues, but upon hearing Acts 2:38 message the first or second time, a bunch more things fell into place, at least doctrinally. At least it all made sense enough for the next 20 years.

(OF course, now, everything makes even better sense, since it's all made up by different religious men with slightly different religious beliefs. Shoehorn them all together and call it The Word of God--way more likely, and sensible.)

[Real Realism]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Our church Baptizes according to Matthew 28:19.

Ah, okay. Yeah, that's a tough one for me to get past. Again - another instance where I can only practice and teach others what I see in the Word. But...it's been a debate going on give or take 1688 years...I'm not the master theologian who's going to change everyone else's mind.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

But when it comes to teaching about matters of faith and religion, what isn't indoctrination? Or, what shouldn't be indoctrination? (rhetorical questions.)

Only when one admits, "I don't know the answer, so there's wiggle room on that subject," --seems only then is teaching any belief not indoctrination. But in admitting that, one is simultaneously admitting the Word of God is not clear enough to make a clear decision--when the scripture claims the god will lead you to All Truth. Either way, "indoctrination" ought not be in a perjorative term to Christians, IMO.



Interesting, I had somewhat the opposite experience. I started out A of G, was happy there for one year, received HG, spoke in tongues, but upon hearing Acts 2:38 message the first or second time, a bunch more things fell into place, at least doctrinally. At least it all made sense enough for the next 20 years.

(OF course, now, everything makes even better sense, since it's all made up by different religious men with slightly different religious beliefs. Shoehorn them all together and call it The Word of God--way more likely, and sensible.)

Don't worry MarcBee yourself and Timmy are coming back. Your going back to UPC and I am taking Timmy back to the AG. Momma Shanda

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Real Realism

Ah, okay. Yeah, that's a tough one for me to get past. Again - another instance where I can only practice and teach others what I see in the Word. But...it's been a debate going on give or take 1688 years...I'm not the master theologian who's going to change everyone else's mind.

I understand I am not going to change anybodies mind. We are called to love and witness to those that know Christ.

[MarcBee]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Don't worry MarcBee yourself and Timmy are coming back. Your going back to UPC and I am taking Timmy back to the AG. Momma Shanda

Hehheh, His Reverend Lee Stoneking is probably right about that possibility (with the wrong reasoning, naturally.)



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[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

Hehheh, His Reverend Lee Stoneking is probably right about that possibility (with the wrong reasoning, naturally.)



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I saw that andI was never a big fan of Elder Stoneking when I was in UPC.

[Disciple4life]

I actually never said I was a one stepper. I was wondering where one steppers go to church. I would rather worship with a one stepper who has love and mercy in his heart than someone I totally agree with over doctrine.
I am a three stepper who believes in the light doctrine, who admits maybe I am wrong.

[Real Realism]

Forgive my ignorance...what is the light doctrine?

[Disciple4life]

Originally Posted by Real Realism

Forgive my ignorance...what is the light doctrine?

The light doctrine is that you are judged by the light of what you have heard.

If you have not heard the Gospel you cannot be judged by it.
If you have not heard Acts 2:38 preached, you cannot be judged by it.

If you have heard that-Jesus died for your sins, was buried, rose on the third day and now sits on his throne in Heaven, then you have enough information to become a believer.
If this person repents of their sins, believes with all their heart and confesses Jesus as Lord they are a righteous believer. They must continue to follow after Jesus and not continue to sin willingly. When this person stands before God’s throne they will be welcomed into Heaven.

If a person believes, repents is baptized in Jesus Name and Receives the Holy Spirit by the Evidence of speaking in tongues, they are born again. They too must follow after Jesus and not willingly sin. BUT the born again believer is in a full or complete relationship with God. They are fully saved.
I have also heard the term “wicked, righteous and holy” to describe this.

[Disciple4life]

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