Ryan vs. Biden, October 11 9-10:30pm EST - Page 4

Adam · #31 10-12-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You know what? It really does matter to me. I am more interested in substance over style.

Ryan has made the statement that in times of crises, solvent credit needs to back up private credit. It really is just another way of saying that sometimes the government has to use taxpayer money to protect private business.

It would depend on who you asked to find out if that is true or not. The point is clear though, the belief that at times the Fed must come to the rescue of private entities is shared by Obama, Romney and Ryan.

Ryan also voted for the largest entitlement expansion since the Great Society, i.e. Medicare Part D. He said it was to make it more efficient. Is that true? It is true that on the prescription coverage, 94% more seniors are covered. However, it also added $9 trillion in "unfunded" liabilities to the program.

And while we are at it, let's talk about Romney's 12 million jobs claim. Moody’s Analytics forecast, from 2013 to 2016, will increase 12 million jobs and it really is not going to matter who is elected. If Romney does get elected, he will take credit for it, just like Obama will. But, the fact is, it is naturally going to happen anyway.

I also read an article by Mona Charen at Townhall. She states, "If Mitt Romney is elected and secures Republican control of both houses of Congress, the U.S. could be poised for a vertiginous economic snapback."

What if they don't secure both houses?

So, my point in all of this debating on choices - I don't see a huge difference between the two candidates. It looks like it won't matter at all, even with all the fear mongering. I'm not buying into it.

I know it matters to you. I agree with what you are saying. Both sides held their nose and voted for TARP. What doesn't matter is picking a side, because both are sides of the same coin of corruption. What matters most is the Bill of Rights. Take that away and we are ruined as a nation.

Adam · #32 10-12-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

I'll take the Mormon over the MUslim anyday.

What hard evidence do you have the Obama is a Muslim? And why should that matter? Do you not believe in freedom of religion? Are you an enemy of the Bill of Rights?

Pressing-On · #33 10-12-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

No offense, but I am pretty hardcore anti-abortion and I would have a hard time telling any woman that she should have to carry a baby to term that was conceived via rape. Yes, it can be done but for many that would be like constant mental and emotional torture.
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I agree, I don't think I could do that either. I know Ryan changed his view on that, but I've always felt that way. Some say it puts two traumas on a woman, but I would have to allow her to decide. Besides, can't you go the hospital, after a rape, and have a D&C administered to stop a pregnancy?

Kathrynrl13 · #34 10-12-2012, 01:38 PM

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No offense, but I am pretty hardcore anti-abortion and I would have a hard time telling any woman that she should have to carry a baby to term that was conceived via rape. Yes, it can be done but for many that would be like constant mental and emotional torture.

And you fear his Mormonism? Are you afraid he might get radical and try to ban caffeine or pass an underwear law? Good grief. I'll take the Mormon over the MUslim anyday.

God hold our life's in his hands, If you were not supposed to be pregnant you wouldn't be. But he also gives us choice to do as we like, so if that means killing your unborn child so be it. But I can not vote for a man who is ok with it. That would be hypocritical.

His mormonism is not the biggest concern, but it is still a concern. Have you done any looking into mormonism?

Pressing-On · #35 10-12-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I know it matters to you. I agree with what you are saying. Both sides held their nose and voted for TARP. What doesn't matter is picking a side, because both are sides of the same coin of corruption. What matters most is the Bill of Rights. Take that away and we are ruined as a nation.

I agree, both parties do not have a dimes difference. I am voting for Virgil Goode/Clymer of the Constitution Party. Our goal is to make them a viable choice for all Americans, in the future, by getting them to a 5% win in states. But, really the down ballots are what we really need to focus on.

Light · #36 10-12-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathrynrl13

God hold our life's in his hands, If you were not supposed to be pregnant you wouldn't be. But he also gives us choice to do as we like, so if that means killing your unborn child so be it. But I can not vote for a man who is ok with it. That would be hypocritical.

His mormonism is not the biggest concern, but it is still a concern. Have you done any looking into mormonism?

Are you saying you can not vote for Romney or Obama???

Kathrynrl13 · #37 10-12-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Light

Are you saying you can not vote for Romney or Obama???

Yes, I will not be voting for Romney or Obama.

Pressing-On · #38 10-12-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathrynrl13

Yes, I will not be voting for Romney or Obama.

Maybe if Obama is re-elected the Republicans will wake up their sorry selves.

Sam · #39 10-12-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We will still need to pay taxes and they are still not specific on the loopholes they will cut. Why the non-specifics? Don't they know or do they not want us to know until after the election?

I'm sure Romney/Ryan have ideas about what to cut. They can suggest these things but only the legislative branch can make them legal. Therefore, until these things can be worked out in detail, they may think it best to not speak in detail about them.

Sam · #40 10-12-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by acjcpastor

A friend posted this on Facebook this morning: "If a wise man has and argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs and there is no quiet." Proverbs 29:9. Well, that pretty much sums up what I witnessed with this debate last night. I’m not calling “Smirking Joe" with his pompous and condescending attitude a fool, but in the light of Solomon’s wisdom, I will say that Joe showed himself to be a fool 80 times over during that debate as that’s at least how many times he rudely interrupted Congressman Ryan.

what translation or (per)version of the Bible is that?