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Old 07-12-2010, 07:20 PM
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Re: Praying wrong?

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Its my belief that most apostolics do not pray for sick people or situations in a true apostolic fashion!!
I can agree with that and even go further..Who are YOU calling on?..Jesus directed prayer towards His God and Father in Heaven!..

Luk 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

As funny as this sounds Jesus did not say one time to call or pray to Him..but we have done it and I have done it myself,what kind of results could we really be getting if we pray to our Father in Heaven?
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Joh 14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Act 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked intently toward heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
Act 7:56 "Look!" he said. "I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!"
Act 7:57 But they covered their ears, shouting out with a loud voice, and rushed at him with one intent.
Act 7:58 When they had driven him out of the city, they began to stone him, and the witnesses laid their cloaks at the feet of a young man named Saul.
Act 7:59 They continued to stone Stephen while he prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"
Act 7:60 Then he fell to his knees and cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" When he had said this, he died.

1Co 1:1 Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes,
1Co 1:2 To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:
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The mystery of physical healing is NOT about discovering a technique or special prayer style. The real key is discovering and accepting the will and purpose of God.
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The mystery of physical healing is NOT about discovering a technique or special prayer style. The real key is discovering and accepting the will and purpose of God.
Or accepting what kind of person he is. You ever hear someone say "Im the kind of person that...." or "Im not that kind of person"..What kind of Person is He? "God is Love". Jesus was compassionate. Merciful. Jesus is God's character revealed
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Re: Praying wrong?

What if you have lots of faith (maybe a watermelon seed's worth), command healing authoritatively, ....but it's not God's will at that moment?

Lots of disillusioned people? More doubt? Confusion?

Just asking.
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Or accepting what kind of person he is. You ever hear someone say "Im the kind of person that...." or "Im not that kind of person"..What kind of Person is He? "God is Love". Jesus was compassionate. Merciful. Jesus is God's character revealed
Yes. And how does this relate to question of healing or not?
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What if you have lots of faith (maybe a watermelon seed's worth), command healing authoritatively, ....but it's not God's will at that moment?

Lots of disillusioned people? More doubt? Confusion?

Just asking.
I believe I have seen this many, many times.
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Yes. And how does this relate to question of healing or not?
He seems to be that kind of person that would want you to be healed
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He seems to be that kind of person that would want you to be healed
I don't think so. He sure makes no apparent attempt on healing most people, even most people in the bible.
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He seems to be that kind of person that would want you to be healed
Perhaps, but I would definitely view that from an eternal perspective.

It is his will that we all escape the pain, heartache and disappointments brought by a fallen nature and creation.

Yet the full realization of this comes in and through the forgiveness of sins and eternal life.

Escaping that which is common to man is very much the exception to the rule, and not the normal experience of Christians. Most Christians get sick and eventually die as does the unbeliever, yet we mourn not like those without hope...
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