Hey, nobody here actually thinks that all man-made doctrines are incorrect, do they? I named one that I think almost everyone here agrees with. If we expand beyond religious/spiritual issues, there is a vast array of man-made teachings (you don't often hear this kind of thing called doctrine, lol): mathematics, physics, astronomy, etc. Anyone disagree with "1+1=2"?
Historically, it has been taught that the canon of Scripture was simply humans looking at what the Holy Spirit had already accomplished among them. The canon itself was formed by the Holy Spirit, "we" (men and women) simply received what was handed down to us.
The books of the New Testament, for example, were circulated along with a many other documents. In time, one particular "heretic" named Marcion rebelled against the "Jewish" contributions and promoted only certain books of the NT, 10 epistles of Paul and a "Gospel" according to Marcion. This Gospel book has been lost, but it is said that the writings of the church fathers include so many references to it that one reconstruct pretty much the entire book.
It was Marcion's movement that prompted the "orthodox" church to finally go about the task of compiling a list, or a "canon," of the inspired books to avoid the confusion and disunity that the Christian world was fraught with at the time.
Of course, because of their efforts we today enjoy a Christian faith that is not fraught with confusion and disunity.
What's your favorite "doctrine of man"? BTW, I hope my understanding of that term is correct. It's a doctrine, or a teaching, or a belief, that came from some human, as opposed to the Bible: is that right? Anyway, what's your favorite man-made belief?
As for me, I would have to state everything that is widely taught as truth today which proclaims that God will violate His own standard of righteousness by granting an exemption/exception from the judgment of death to a group of His saints that will be "alive and remain" (so) until the moment of the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus. In other words, I refute the "doctrine of man" which proclaims a "rapture of the Church" (pre, mid, post, or pre-wrath).
Historically, it has been taught that the canon of Scripture was simply humans looking at what the Holy Spirit had already accomplished among them. The canon itself was formed by the Holy Spirit, "we" (men and women) simply received what was handed down to us.
The books of the New Testament, for example, were circulated along with a many other documents. In time, one particular "heretic" named Marcion rebelled against the "Jewish" contributions and promoted only certain books of the NT, 10 epistles of Paul and a "Gospel" according to Marcion. This Gospel book has been lost, but it is said that the writings of the church fathers include so many references to it that one reconstruct pretty much the entire book.
It was Marcion's movement that prompted the "orthodox" church to finally go about the task of compiling a list, or a "canon," of the inspired books to avoid the confusion and disunity that the Christian world was fraught with at the time.
Of course, because of their efforts we today enjoy a Christian faith that is not fraught with confusion and disunity.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
What??? That's not in the bible? You mean all those times I got "Forget not the assembling" quoted at me, I could've stayed home???
To "forsake the assembling" is to swear off ever assembling. Christians met when possible, feasible, and sensible. They didn't have mandated service times for at least 300 years. It was a family that met when able and those in close proximity lived in community with daily fellowship.
In my opinion the text in Ezekiel is saying that, "The soul that sinneth shall die." We all know that sin has fallen upon all men, therefore so has death. Therefore every human being (living soul) shall die. Specifically Ezekiel gave warning that the individuals in rebellion against God will receive the judgment of God. Remember, man is a living soul.... it's been that way since Genesis. Therefore if a man (a living soul) dies (as a result of fallen sinful nature) or the judgments of God... that soul has "died" even if their immortal soul spends eternity in Heaven or Hell.
As for me, I would have to state everything that is widely taught as truth today which proclaims that God will violate His own standard of righteousness by granting an exemption/exception from the judgment of death to a group of His saints that will be "alive and remain" (so) until the moment of the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus. In other words, I refute the "doctrine of man" which proclaims a "rapture of the Church" (pre, mid, post, or pre-wrath).
That correlation of scripture does not really stand. The context of the passage at the end of Hebrews 9 actually is saying that the reason Jesus died ONE SINGLE DEATH was not for His own sake, but because WE WERE APPOINTED TO DIE ONCE. In other words, His death was intended to stand in the place as our single appointed death. And so, in effect, since His death stood as our deaths, WE ALREADY DIED THE SINGLE REQUIRED DEATH we owed due to sin. That means the passage of being alive when He comes and not dying is not at all interpreted incorrectly to say some will never died. They already died their single appointed death THROUGH CHRIST'S DEATH.
Heb 9:26-28 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (27) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (28) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
This is saying that since we had to die "once" to pay the price for sin, THAT IS THE REASON CHRIST DIED ONCE. He did not die for any reason of His own, as though He had to pay for some sin of His own. he was SINLESS! That single death He experienced WAS IN PLACE OF OUR DEATHS.
The only reason God appointed us to die once was because the penalty for sin had to be paid. And since God is the one who must see that penalty paid, and God planned the death of Christ to be that payment for each of us, as far as God is concerned we all died that appointed death through Christ!
So we cannot say that we still have to fulfill the appointment for one death after we are saved. And we can say that those who are alive and remain shall not die when the Lord comes if they are faithful believers (1 Thess 4:15; 1 Cor 15:51) have already died the moment they got saved when they DIED THROUGH CHRIST'S death.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
It is obvious that some "doctrines of man" are claimed, by their defenders, to be derived from scripture. Some aren't. And I don't mean just those non-religious/non-spiritual "doctrines" I mentioned, like 2+2=4. One of your foundational doctrines is not based on scripture, which I think most would agree. That famous one that lists the composition of God's Word, which I named in post #11. Well, someone tried to. But nowhere does the Bible, even pieced together from as many different scriptures as you like, teach this doctrine.
Someone correct me, if I'm wrong. Where does the Bible teach that Genesis is God's Word? Where does it teach that Exodus is God's Word? Don't make me ask this question 66 times! I think you get my point. Some of the books may have scripture evidence for being inspired, but not all. (I'm pretty sure, anyway!)
Oh, my claim that this is a man-made doctrine has been disputed. It was said that the canon selection was guided by God. But that itself is man's opinion, and is not itself supported by scripture! And the actual canon is not 100% agreed to, even today.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
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