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Originally Posted by Twisp
The embossed seal and signature is on the back, which did not show through very well on the scan. Numerous sources have examined it closely, in person, and have verified that the seal is there. There were birth announcements in two separate Honolulu papers on August 1961 documenting the birth. Hawaiian officials also state that there is "no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii." The Health Department Director and the registrar of vital statistics have both verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. All sources for this can be found at the links below.
It is not that I do not "get it", it is that I believe in a reality based in factuality.
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/ |
snopes is not an academically acceptible site for citations.
Apparently education lacking people use it to google scholar.
I won't let college students quote it.
"Numerous sources" Un named.
health departments holds COLB. Yep and won't release it.
snopes doesn't verify anything.
It does make your argument look worse as a matter of fact.
I know you haven't delivered babies. snopes hasn't either. But snopes and yourself can't ive a name of the person that can verify the live birth.
The company I own has been to a state supreme court to try a case. i got a brief education in rules of evidence. Externally generated third party documents are NOT admitted as evidence.
Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present
DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.
Why can't snopes deal with this?
I can't say where he was born. I can feel comfy that his Birth certificate is a fraud.
a web site with political in its name "politifact" says it all.
Medical people do not go to political sites to answer physical or medical questions. There are a few docs in washington. They sure don't go to lawyers for medical records. Actually I find the defense by Obama loyal people to be entertaining and and very revealing.
Give you a little reality. Had Obama had an incident discovered as a newborn and all that was offered as "proof" that he was born in Hawaaii at a specific hospital, no lawyer would accept it. It has no signatures on it of witnesses. It is both fake and incomplete. It is at most a birth announcement on some official looking stationary.
People say they have seen it and say it is real also applies to people that say they have seen noah's ark and the Ark of the covenant.
Politifacts Not acceptible
snopes? also huighely inferior and biased source.
They despise conservatives that say prove it.
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