So often our friends on this forum feel they are trying to make a point. However to a lot of the rest of us they are merely trying to be inflammatory.
Perhaps the problem lies on both sides of the discussion. A poor choice of words or wording. An unwillingness to accept that persons explanation or understand the point they were trying to make (perhaps from being too defensive or overly sensitive).
Sometimes it seems the speaker really was trying to make a point AND was trying to be inflammatory. You have to realize that you just lost your point if you had one to make. You don't take points since there is no point system here. You didn't win an argument.
If you have a point to be made then you have to choose your words carefully and not with an "I don't care" attitude. This is a discussion forum. It's not intended as a "venting forum" nor a "vendetta forum".
I find it ironic that some of the people that leave in a huff demand we not call this place Apostolic laced with some nasty parting shots...when I was thinking the only problem seemed to be the word FRIENDS in the name.
Let's act like friends. Dialog is the key. Try to see how the other person is feeling. Be Apologetic. Be humble. Stop trying to be inflammatory. If you have a point, choose your words carefully. If someone was offended try to explain what you meant and be apologetic without making it the other persons fault. What do I mean? An Apology does not start, include or end with a finger pointing at the other person.
Thoughts?
Great Post, Bro. Praxeas,
Sometimes things are said that are very good in content, but the
delivery may be the problem. For instance, it not what we said, BUT
the way we said it!
On the other hand, we may totally disagree with what is said, but
there is also a manner/spirit in which we re-act that could bring about good
dialogue for both.
I may tell my husband I love him, but if I am frowning, he may be
confused. LOL!
What does the term " To be like Jesus" mean? Jesus was not always the quiet,the loving and the long suffering man that people say we must be like. Jesus was harsh when it was needed. He used a whip on those that polluted the temple. Jesus gave the Apostles the truth and he expects those that are called to obey Peters teachings.
Jesus said Father I have finished the work that you gave me to do. I have given them (Apostles) your word, your word is true. Jesus said I pray for them: I pray not for the world, Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their (Apostles ) word;
Man can only be saved through obedience to the Apostles Peters words.
When someone is bold enough to proclaim and take a stand for the doctrine that Peter preached, many say they are mean and do not show love. If you are bold enough to say the saved at repentance doctrine is false doctrine you are scoffed at and ridiculed, called mean spirited.
I do not want to draw my circle bigger if it includes people that believe and continue in false doctrine.
To be like Jesus is telling the world the same words he gave to the Apostles. Those words are in Acts 2:38
Jesus had righteous indignation. We often just have self-righteous indignation.
Being bold and taking a stand is great. Being inconsiderate, judgmental and condemning is not. Many people can't seem to tell the difference (and I'll admit it can be a subtle distinction).
Just some thoughts.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Jesus had righteous indignation. We often just have self-righteous indignation.
Being bold and taking a stand is great. Being inconsiderate, judgmental and condemning is not. Many people can't seem to tell the difference (and I'll admit it can be a subtle distinction).
Just some thoughts.
And some good thoughts!
Proverbs 28:1,
"The wicked flee when no man pursues: but the righteous are bold as a lion".
Sometimes I have this problem...what I want to say does not always come out the way I want it to. I agree facial expressions tell us a lot and KNOWING the person even tells us more.
I have lived and worked among a people for 40 years the "OLE" timers tell me, "missionary, you don´t have to say anything your eyes tell us everything!
I am thinking about something that happened at a church I was at...a lady got up and said something that I did not agree with and was way off base according to what we feel is doctrine...then the pastor called on me and I thanked the lady for visiting us and told her that her dress was so beautiful...which it was...after the meeting our folks came up laughing and said, Missionary...no matter what is said you try to find something good...Our people knew I did not agree with what the person said but there was no reason to hurt the lady...at another time I was with her I told her how our church felt about a certain thing...she remembered her remark and thanked me for wisely not saying anything at that moment...we still are friends however she knows what we believe and has been back...
There is much wisdom needed in dealing with people...what might help one could kill another. That is why we must always remember, He that winneth souls is wise.
I try to teach my people and when some remark is made they also can know how to react and win if possible a soul.
The story of the hurt Samaritan tells about a man that was half dead....half dead also means half alive...what we do about it many times determines the end of the story!
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James and John, in their early zeal, wanted to call down fire from heaven on the Samaritans. Aged Paul was willing to take back even Mark, whom he had refused as a companion in his early ministry and to acknowledge that he was profitable to him for the ministry...
Sometimes we have to stand back...get away to think clearly....harsh judgment is seldom the right thing... to speak before thinking...to speak before praying...
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51 Now it came to pass, when the time had come for Him to be received up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem, 52 and sent messengers before His face. And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”[e]
55 But He turned and rebuked them,[f] and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.”[g] And they went to another village.
I think most of us would have consumed a few people if we would have had the power to call fire from heaven! How terribly human we are!
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Excellent words of advice!
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