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Old 12-01-2008, 05:11 AM
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Re: Snooping on a WPF church

I don't see anything wrong with a saint wanting to play the piano for another "apostolic" church on one of her church nights off.

I do see alot wrong with someone spying and peeking in windows to find something to gossip about.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:56 AM
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Re: Snooping on a WPF church

I think Ihave been had.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:21 AM
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Re: Snooping on a WPF church

I'm not saying whether you did the right or wrong thing in this situation...BECAUSE you probably did what you have been trained to do.

I grew up UPC...the general rule is you don't go to another man's church and do anything for them UNLESS your pastor knows about it in advance.

I know, I know...I'm not for or against UPC, but it is the general rule. My father used to spit nails practically if someone did that. He worried about his saint wanting to go to the other man's church because it was better over there and etc.

Should you have called??? Personally I think no...

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:23 AM
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I think this has been brought to us by the originators of Holinesswoman and Hubert!
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:32 AM
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Anyways, I am wondering what I look like in this deal. Am I a total jerk and gossip? Did I do the right or wrong thing? Should I just let God take care of the situation?

I feel like I should have just kept my mouth shut. But two things motivated me to tell. I am very loyal to whatever church I happen to be going to and I also always thought that this piano player was somewhat of a snob.

So theres the scenario, somebody analyze me.
To play the piano at the church down the street on an off night of ones own church does not a problem make.

Your pastor clearly stated that this would be gossip but somehow felt that texting the information would be different. I am not wanting to be harsh on this but if I were to call it like you see it...

You were suffering from Don Francisco syndrome. (Remember his song... Got To Tell Somebody).

You wanted to tell and nothing was going to deny you from doing it. Not even a clear statement from the pastor that this would be gossip for you to share that information.

What may have been a simple case of someone visiting another church on an off night might now turn into a situation where the pastor asks questions and an uncomfortable situation develops and the person ends up leaving because of the uncomfortable situation.

At which time all of the folks back at the home church can all make themselves feel better by talking about his heart was over there anyway.

But... that's just me.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:35 AM
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I was walking my dog tonight, we went to one service only on Sunday at our church, and passed the new WPF church right down the street from my house during there night service.

Curiosity got the best of me. I peeked in the window and noticed that the Piano player was one of our lower tier, fourth string piano players from our church.

It was telegraph, telephone, tell a woman time. I struggled with the urge to call my Pastor and eventually caved into the pressure to spill the beans. I asked him if it would be gossip to tell him who the piano player was down at the new WPF church and he replied in the affirmative. Well, I got around that one by texting him the name of the piano player and asking for forgiveness.

He texted my back and said it spoke more of the scruples of the Pastor of the church prosyletizing from other local churches. Especially this pastor, pastored here 20 years ago and was contacting old saints without even talking to the two local UPC pastors.

If this would have happened to the WPF pastor when he was UPC there would have been uh uh uh to pay.

Anyways, I am wondering what I look like in this deal. Am I a total jerk and gossip? Did I do the right or wrong thing? Should I just let God take care of the situation?

I feel like I should have just kept my mouth shut. But two things motivated me to tell. I am very loyal to whatever church I happen to be going to and I also always thought that this piano player was somewhat of a snob.

So theres the scenario, somebody analyze me.
This kind of thinking is ridiculous. This woman has a choice of where to go to church. It's not like this pastor is forcing her to go to his church and not the other.

As for you telling who was playing the piano. It is hardly gossip. She was in a public place.
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What *if* I planted a couple of video camera's in your bedroom. Would I be compelled to *reveal* to your pastor anything I found that went against his teaching?
This woman was in a public place for all to see. There is no shame in going to church and playing the piano!! The bedroom is not a public place!
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Re: Snooping on a WPF church

sorry. my devious mind is in hyper drive this morning.


I would have waited until the piano player and your pastor were together and I would have then said to your pastor with the lady right there:

"I think it is wonderful that you are letting Sis. ________ help Rev. ________ with his new church!

Sister ______ I was walking my dog last sunday night and heard you playing piano, you did a wonderful job!


Thats what I would have done.
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This woman was in a public place for all to see. There is no shame in going to church and playing the piano!! The bedroom is not a public place!
I wasn't aware that if you tell things other people do that it was only gossip if it happened in a private place.

You learn something new every day.
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sorry. my devious mind is in hyper drive this morning.


I would have waited until the piano player and your pastor were together and I would have then said to your pastor with the lady right there:

"I think it is wonderful that you are letting Sis. ________ help Rev. ________ with his new church!

Sister ______ I was walking my dog last sunday night and heard you playing piano, you did a wonderful job!


Thats what I would have done.
Wow... such malice
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