TRF it all happened in 70 AD. We are now living in the "new earth"! Isn't that exciting. The new earth is here and its full of murder, corruption, child abuse and homosexuality. Isn't Christ's Kingdom wonderful????????
Ever consider Isa 51:16 which says that God CREATED heaven and earth when HE CALLED A COVENANT PEOPLE?
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Isaiah 51:16 KJV And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
So, would not a new covenant people be a new heaven and earth -- new creation?
To say a new heaven and earth is here is as odd as reading Isa 51:16 where God said he created heaven and earth when he called a PEOPLE to be ZIONO. But is Isaiah right or wrong?
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Antichrist simply means to oppose the Messiah. It is a spirit and not a person. As far as how Revelation plays out - I have no idea. I get lost somewhere around Chapter 15.
As far as Dispensationalism goes - I guess I question that. As time has progressed, over the pulpit, every new gadget, system, world leader and technology has been suspect. I'm tired of hearing it.
Everything else in the Bible lines up from Genesis to Revelation. The only thing that doesn't seem to line up is some of the references in the Word on some views concerning Revelation. Reaching outside of the Bible, seems confusing and speculation, IMO.
TRF it all happened in 70 AD. We are now living in the "new earth"! Isn't that exciting. The new earth is here and its full of murder, corruption, child abuse and homosexuality. Isn't Christ's Kingdom wonderful????????
You are so right, DB.
Come to think of it...so why am I even spreading the gospel, if the "new earth" is already here?
Silly me.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
Ever consider Isa 51:16 which says that God CREATED heaven and earth when HE CALLED A COVENANT PEOPLE?
So, would not a new covenant people be a new heaven and earth -- new creation?
To say a new heaven and earth is here is as odd as reading Isa 51:16 where God said he created heaven and earth when he called a PEOPLE to be ZIONO. But is Isaiah right or wrong?
I dont see where in that verse God said he created a new heaven and earth.
16And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people
MB, I think you're forcing a meaning into that verse that's not really there.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I dont see where in that verse God said he created a new heaven and earth.
16And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people
MB, I think you're forcing a meaning into that verse that's not really there.
The verse is saying he called a people SO THAT HE MAY lay foundations of the earth and plant the heavens. That is creative language.
Read it from another version:
Isaiah 51:16 GW I put my words in your mouth and sheltered you in the palm of my hand. I stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and said to Zion, "You are my people."
Isaiah 51:16 ESV And I have put my words in your mouth and covered you in the shadow of my hand, establishing the heavens and laying the foundations of the earth, and saying to Zion, 'You are my people.'"
Isaiah 51:16 BBE And I have put my words in your mouth, covering you with the shade of my hand, stretching out the heavens, and placing the earth on its base, and saying to Zion, You are my people.
Isaiah 51:16 ASV And I have put my words in thy mouth, and have covered thee in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
Plain enough to me.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Come to think of it...so why am I even spreading the gospel, if the "new earth" is already here?
Silly me.
If I believed the new earth refers to what you believe it refers to, then I would agree it is silly. But I think it refers to the new covenant people and the new covenant. So it all makes sense then.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I posted this on an earlier thread when the same question was asked there.
It does amaze me how soon people forgot what is so obvious.
"Barack Hussein Obama.
18 letters in his name. Coincidence? You decide.
18 divided by 3 = Yes. You got it... 6
Now take his wife, Michelle LaVaughn Obama. 21 letters in her name.
Take 21 and divide it by 6 (the number of his name) and what do you get?
Yes! 3.5!! And we all know the antichrist will break the covenant with Israel exactly 3.5 years into the 7 year peace treaty that Obama (oops, the antichrist) will sign with Israel.
So there you have it. The puzzle is slowly being revealed. Any more questions?"
I posted this on an earlier thread when the same question was asked there.
It does amaze me how soon people forgot what is so obvious.
"Barack Hussein Obama.
18 letters in his name. Coincidence? You decide.
18 divided by 3 = Yes. You got it... 6
Now take his wife, Michelle LaVaughn Obama. 21 letters in her name.
Take 21 and divide it by 6 (the number of his name) and what do you get?
Yes! 3.5!! And we all know the antichrist will break the covenant with Israel exactly 3.5 years into the 7 year peace treaty that Obama (oops, the antichrist) will sign with Israel.
So there you have it. The puzzle is slowly being revealed. Any more questions?"
yes I have two questions
1. do you really believe this
2. and if so, how many others have you believed were the antichrist?
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I posted this on an earlier thread when the same question was asked there.
It does amaze me how soon people forgot what is so obvious.
"Barack Hussein Obama.
18 letters in his name. Coincidence? You decide.
18 divided by 3 = Yes. You got it... 6
Now take his wife, Michelle LaVaughn Obama. 21 letters in her name.
Take 21 and divide it by 6 (the number of his name) and what do you get?
Yes! 3.5!! And we all know the antichrist will break the covenant with Israel exactly 3.5 years into the 7 year peace treaty that Obama (oops, the antichrist) will sign with Israel.
So there you have it. The puzzle is slowly being revealed. Any more questions?"
Only one:
Did it hurt that day when you fell and hit your head?
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
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