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Old 03-28-2007, 03:22 PM
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I normally enjoy your posts. I am disappointed in this one.

God expects men to be men and ladies to be ladies.

Kinda makes me rethink my position on ladies preachers. That woman sounds like a feminazi.
What "that woman" are you referring to?
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:22 PM
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You might like what she would say go home and tell your husbands...........I'm gonna try and be better But.........if you don't like that.........well..........lol
If that were the case men would be flying their wives to every ladies conference in the continental US!!!!!!!
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:25 PM
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If that were the case men would be flying their wives to every ladies conference in the continental US!!!!!!!
Hey now I have been to a few conferences where they straightened the ladies out in their roles.

I don't know what you are hearing, but I haven't been to a ladies conference in years. Perhaps things are changing without me being their to supervise. lol
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What "that woman" are you referring to?
Paula
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Ok, thanks.
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Well. God chose to be referred to in the masculine.

Stay on topic! Do you think radical feminism has a place in the Apostolic movement?
As Michlow pointed out, feminism and women acting masculine aren't exactly the same things, and it seems you're opposing the second one. Some people would call me a feminist, because I believe that women have equal value as men, that they should be treated with respect and cherished by the men in their lives, and should be able to pursue the will of God. Speaking from a purely secular perspective, I believe women should be able to attend the best schools, work the best jobs, vote, have equal legal rights in marriage, etc. etc.

Women should behave in a feminine manner, and it's obnoxious and offensive when they act masculine.

Now, whether or not a raised voice or a passionately presented sermon qualifies as "masculine" is debatable. Most people know effeminance[sp?] or a macho woman when they see it, and its hard to put into concrete terms.

I certainly don't think that it's proper teaching for a woman to say things like, "women go home and 'tell' your husbands!" First of all, that's just a lack of wisdom, since most men don't respond well to being "told" anything. (e.g., bossed around or ordered to do something), and secondly it seems to contradict the idea of wives being meek, submissive and respectful to their husbands.

Again, though, is that masculinity or ignorance? Who knows?

At Ladies' Conferences, women tend to let their guard down a little more and say what's really on their hearts, and they probably don't tone things down as much as they would if men were in the room, so I'm not sure that's a bad thing....

Now, it isn't really FAIR to judge a woman's total status as "feminine" when she's shockamoo-ing! Especially at a conference where there are only ladies, and she may not be as worried about appearance as she normally would be.


Nona Freeman...Vesta Mangun...Nancy Grandquist...LaJoyce Martin...just a few women who can speak the Word of God with equal power and anointing as a man, while still retaining their femininity and dignity.
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What if a man shockamoos like a lady?

What if a man is totally gay in his speaking style?
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What if a man shockamoos like a lady?

What if a man is totally gay in his speaking style?
*note to file*
10 posts ago this same poster publically rebuked poor 'ol tbpew for not being on topic!
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What if a man shockamoos like a lady?
I'm not sure what that would consist of, really.

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What if a man is totally gay in his speaking style?
Well, barring the possibility that he has an accent that makes his speech seem "gay", I would say that I wouldn't be interested in hearing what he had to say, really.

For you to have a discussion, here, though, you've got to define what you view as essentially masculine and feminine speaking styles (and shockamooing).

When you say "feminist", do you mean the views and perspectives a woman believes and professes in reference to women's "rights"? Or do you mean mannerisms, style of dress and speaking voice? Both? Neither?
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What if a man shockamoos like a lady?

What if a man is totally gay in his speaking style?
One prominent evangelist comes to mind
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