A Lesson in Pentecostal Hermeneutics - Page 4

Sam · #31 07-20-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Maybe you can think of and share some other examples of wooden literalism as they apply to standards and salvation .... when you get a chance?

footwashing comes to mind.

Sam · #32 07-20-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Dan,

How can you twist Scripture like this? You know baseball is only about 200 years old!!! They were talking about pitching horse shoes for sure.

Well, we could probably find obscure references in history to prove that God has had baseball games all along --that He left Himself without witness and it's not something new in the past couple of centuries.

Sam · #33 07-20-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are there any practical examples of this that come to mind, master Yoda?

greeting one another with "an holy kiss" comes to mind

preaching against women wearing their hair up in a bun because the Bible says "top not come down" (Matthew 24:17) comes to mind.

preaching against playing marbles because the Bible says, "marvel not" (John 5:28) comes to mind.

Michael Phelps · #34 07-20-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Maybe you can think of and share some other examples of wooden literalism as they apply to standards and salvation .... when you get a chance?

I had a minister use this scripture to preach against men people wearing shorts -

ISA47:
1Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.

2Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.

Said that when God cursed Israel, he made her "uncover the thigh".

Notwithstanding that this passage is not even about Israel, and if we took it literally we could say that it was ok for men to wear shorts to the knees.

Michael Phelps · #35 07-20-2008, 02:32 PM

Here's another one:

Acts 27:12
And because the haven was not commodious to winter in, the more part advised to depart thence also, if by any means they might attain to Phenice, and there to winter; which is an haven of Crete, and lieth toward the south west and north west.

During one of Paul's cruises, they were going to stay in a certain hotel, but apparently it was too cold, and the pipes froze, so the toilet wouldn't work, so they had to go somewhere else.

mizpeh · #36 07-20-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Here's another one:

Acts 27:12
And because the haven was not commodious to winter in, the more part advised to depart thence also, if by any means they might attain to Phenice, and there to winter; which is an haven of Crete, and lieth toward the south west and north west.

During one of Paul's cruises, they were going to stay in a certain hotel, but apparently it was too cold, and the pipes froze, so the toilet wouldn't work, so they had to go somewhere else.

ReformedDave · #37 07-20-2008, 02:37 PM

Acts 26 where Paul says to Agripa, "I think myself happy...."

I've heard several ministers preach ,using that text, that we're to think ourselves into a happy state.

What stupid exegesis!!!

Michael Phelps · #38 07-20-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Acts 26 where Paul says to Agripa, "I think myself happy...."

I've heard several ministers preach ,using that text, that we're to think ourselves into a happy state.

What stupid exegesis!!!

What does it mean?

That's what I'd always heard, lol.

ReformedDave · #39 07-20-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

What does it mean?

That's what I'd always heard, lol.

We would say that we think that we're fortunate to be able to present our case before Agripa.
Here's the ESV- Acts 26:1-3- " So Agrippa said to Paul, “You have permission to speak for yourself.” Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:

2 “I consider myself fortunate that it is before you, King Agrippa, I am going to make my defense today against all the accusations of the Jews, 3 especially because you are familiar with all the customs and controversies of the Jews. Therefore I beg you to listen to me patiently."

It has nothing to do with a Norman Vincent Peale state of mind.

Michael Phelps · #40 07-20-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

We would say that we think that we're fortunate to be able to present our case before Agripa.
Here's the ESV- Acts 26:1-3- " So Agrippa said to Paul, “You have permission to speak for yourself.” Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:

2 “I consider myself fortunate that it is before you, King Agrippa, I am going to make my defense today against all the accusations of the Jews, 3 especially because you are familiar with all the customs and controversies of the Jews. Therefore I beg you to listen to me patiently."

It has nothing to do with a Norman Vincent Peale state of mind.

Well, NUTS!

I had thought myself into a good mood, now I'm cranky!!!!!!