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Old 07-18-2008, 08:33 PM
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I beg to differ.
You can differ all you want fact is that many issues over the years have been voted on by consecrated men of God over the years ...

I don't doubt the spirituality of the men that disagreed recently at Tampa over TV ... on both sides ...

I doubt their sense.

THese things are political animals more than anything.
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You can differ all you want fact is that many issues over the years have been voted on by consecrated men of God over the years ...

I don't doubt the spirituality of the men that disagreed recently at Tampa over TV ... on both sides ...

I doubt their sense.

THese things are political animals more than anything.
Consecrated to their flesh, at best!
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Consecrated to their flesh, at best!
Sad ... in one breath they are men that have the shekinah on their faces after consulting God for their votes on Mount Horeb ...

and in the next they are doing a conga-line in adoration of the golden calf.

Make up your mind.
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On wedding rings...how does he figure one position damns the other?
By damning others to hell for wearing a ring - it's obvious.

By saying that it's a "non-essential issue" you may infer damnation to those who take serious disagreement (Deuteronomy 12:32; Revelation 22:18-19).

For many of us, the "added" commandments represent something akin to Baal worship being introduced in our midst. I confess that this at times comes across as "damning" when I say things like, "It's a sin to worship Baal..." In a sense I am being judgmental and I have to watch my spirit.

But still, it's a sin to introduce Baal worship (Judges 2:13-14).
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Sad ... in one breath they are men that have the shekinah on their faces after consulting God for their votes on Mount Horeb ...

and in the next they are doing a conga-line in adoration of the golden calf.

Make up your mind.
Please Daniel.....give me names....
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Please Daniel.....give me names....
Names of men you think are holy?

This (Tampa) was voted on by secret ballot my friend ... you have no idea who voted for what ....
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Names of men you think are holy?

This (Tampa) was voted on by secret ballot my friend ... you have no idea who voted for what ....
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Well... just to be contrarian...

While from a practical level this may be "just pie in the sky..." it does show how the UPC itself can learn to write "rules" that everyone can live with - don't write those rules at all.

What's a statement that everyone can agree on concerning wedding rings? No statement all.

What's a statement on facial hair that everyone can agree on? No statement all.

Once the UPC (and other Apostolic orgs) grow up and start taking spiritually mature "stands" on these silly "issues" then real progress can be made toward authentic holiness.
Hey, imagine that. The UPC has NO WRITTEN statement on either of those. Reckon that solves that.
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Hey, imagine that. The UPC has NO WRITTEN statement on either of those. Reckon that solves that.

Nor does it have one on pants on a woman.

Clear ... objections to TV however.
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