Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.
ESV
And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'
(NLT)
What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’
Amplified
And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
I'm not sure what you're trying not to prove but all of these translations link baptism and calling on the name of the Lord to a washing away of sins. Something that one steppers tell us happens at repentance.
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Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.
ESV
And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'
(NLT)
What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’
Amplified
And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
The same thing can be said of your argument.
However when you consider that baptism was a command, & practiced by the Apostles, your bag of arguments starts to get wet!
Hey Amplified Bible is the correct one, or should I say, whoever you look to that agrees with you is?
What happened to truth?
I would ask you the same question. You insist on defining one Greek word to mean two different things. Truth is not important to you, holding a doctrine that is contrary to the very words of Scripture is more important than truth.
How many translation would you like?
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I'm not sure what you're trying not to prove but all of these translations link baptism and calling on the name of the Lord to a washing away of sins. Something that one steppers tell us happens at repentance.
And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
You would have been more convincing if you used the NASV to try to prove repentance is for the remission of sins.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
I would ask you the same question. You insist on defining one Greek word to mean two different things. Truth is not important to you, holding a doctrine that is contrary to the very words of Scripture is more important than truth.
How many translation would you like?
You could give me 1500 for all I care.
It isn't a doctrine contrary to scripture.
Did Jesus both teach & command baptism in the Gospels?
Did he not get baptized himself?
Did the Apostles baptize?
The same thing can be said of your argument.
However when you consider that baptism was a command, & practiced by the Apostles, your bag of arguments starts to get wet!
It absolutely does not. Baptism is about obedience. Interpreting Scripture based on what it says rather than on what I want it to say is at least being honest with the text.
The facts are in my favor regardless of how strongly you believe your error.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
I would just like to say that I am FOR BAPTISM
Me to.
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I must disagree, Ferd. It's not a good answer and it is a poor example. Bill Clinton's comment wanted to give multiple definitions to the word "is". Those who seek to separate remittance and forgiveness attempt to do the same thing with the Greek, give the same word multiple meanings and they get to choose which meaning it has based on what they want the verse to say.
The fact is the Scripture does not distinguish between the two.
Sam is correct on this.
No sir. eis (FOR) found in Acts 2:38 gets to mean mulitple things!
that IS the arguement. what does it mean HERE.
I still say Brother Wiggens post was dead on accurate.
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