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06-10-2008, 10:41 AM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Originally Posted by Neck
I think Paul and Lord did the right thing by not naming his thorn.
Because some would have built a doctrine and a lifestyle around running from it.
We all have a thorn and it translates into the same situation.
We deal with it everyday and that keeps is close to God.
No matter who you are you have a vice.
From the looks of things many have the vice of fork and spoon...
My vice is working to many hours and losing myself in the process.
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I agree with you. We all have a thorn that we deal with daily.
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06-10-2008, 10:42 AM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
Jtullock,
This is an important subject. I've had many use this passage to prove that God doesn't heal all ailment, and that is a lie of the devil.
I have enough scripture to prove it wasn't a physical ailment, and I'm willing to debate one person only, as the rest on-look.
I restate my stance, Paul's thorn wasn't a physical ailment.
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I have never thought that Paul was referring to a physical ailment.
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06-10-2008, 10:50 AM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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I have never thought that Paul was referring to a physical ailment.
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Beautiful, it's good to know.
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06-10-2008, 11:05 AM
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America, bless God.
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Is that better?
Now I can stare and you won't know it!
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 Ahhhh! Much better. Thanks
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06-10-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
I wonder could a Mother In Law be considered a thorn in the flesh ?
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06-10-2008, 12:05 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
Paul specifically said the thorn was a "messenger of satan to buffet" him.
I have heard every angle as well but I personally feel that it most likely was tormenting thoughts about his involvement with the persecution of the early church (before his own conversion)...especially his involvement with the stoning of Stephen...
I am sure that the haunting memories of his holding the coats for those that stoned him...and his obvious authority to permit or stop such an event in the first place...weighed heavy on his mind. What kind of impact could have Stephen made for the kingdom if Saul would have let him live?
I would imagine that Paul played that scenario in his mind often...especially at night.
Just one opinion...the messenger of satan could have been many other things...depression, loneliness, fear, ...... whatever it was, it was used by God to keep Paul's "feet on the ground".....
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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06-10-2008, 01:00 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
Paul specifically said the thorn was a "messenger of satan to buffet" him.
I have heard every angle as well but I personally feel that it most likely was tormenting thoughts about his involvement with the persecution of the early church (before his own conversion)...especially his involvement with the stoning of Stephen...
I am sure that the haunting memories of his holding the coats for those that stoned him...and his obvious authority to permit or stop such an event in the first place...weighed heavy on his mind. What kind of impact could have Stephen made for the kingdom if Saul would have let him live?
I would imagine that Paul played that scenario in his mind often...especially at night.
Just one opinion...the messenger of satan could have been many other things...depression, loneliness, fear, ...... whatever it was, it was used by God to keep Paul's "feet on the ground".....
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Unfortunately, your comments are based on assumptions. If you care, I'd be willing to dialog with you or any other.
It seems AFF doesn't have any "hard hitters"! 
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06-10-2008, 01:03 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Unfortunately, your comments are based on assumptions. If you care, I'd be willing to dialog with you or any other.
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Oh please.
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06-10-2008, 01:04 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Oh please.
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Would you like to arrange a debate on this subject?
I -vs- Your hard hitters?
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06-10-2008, 01:05 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Would you like to arrange a debate on this subject?
I -vs- Your hard hitters?
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You want to be hit?
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