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03-12-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
I think it is pretty sad, but I have seen a pastor take the couple, marry them in his office, quick-like so one or both can get baptized.
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03-12-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
What if they have been living together for years and have children?
Common law marriage .
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Then what is Fornication?
Personally, I think it should be harder to get married and harder to get divorced.
JMHO Though
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03-12-2007, 09:13 PM
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[QUOTE=Ron;37322]Then what is Fornication?
Personally, I think it should be harder to get married and harder to get divorced.
There was a family like this at my old UPC church.
My Pastor did not push the issue. They were a family none the less.
Later they did get married.
And later got D-vorced. Go figure.
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03-12-2007, 11:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
What if they have been living together for years and have children?
Common law marriage .
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I think if they are in a common law marriage, then they shouldn't mind letting the pastor marry them before God. 
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03-13-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I think if they are in a common law marriage, then they shouldn't mind letting the pastor marry them before God. |
What procedure does God require for this to occur?
I am hoping for a biblically based answer.
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03-13-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I think if they are in a common law marriage, then they shouldn't mind letting the pastor marry them before God. |
But it is not very polite to make a seen at the request of baptism.
What then, do we ask every one what their sexual life is like before thay are baptised in Jesus name?
Get real it sounds just like "A SHOT GUN WEDDING" before baptism. 
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03-13-2007, 08:32 AM
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Mr. Pastor I would like to be baptized 
 Are you shacking up with any one? Are you in a Common law marriage? 
Get married before you get buried!
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03-13-2007, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Mr. Pastor I would like to be baptized
Are you shacking up with any one? Are you in a Common law marriage?
Get married before you get buried! |
I don't understand it!!! Baptism is part of salvation....I don't see how one can deny it...Let God and that person work out the rest....At least they are on the right path to getting their life straightened out!!!!!!!!!1
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03-13-2007, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Mr. Pastor I would like to be baptized
Are you shacking up with any one? Are you in a Common law marriage?
Get married before you get buried! |
We rarely baptize someone the day they ask to be baptized. We have someone from the staff or baptismal committee meet with them and make sure that they understand repentance, and what they are about to do. We don't take it lightly, and we don't want to baptize someone who is going to blatantly continue in their sin.
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03-13-2007, 09:31 AM
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Bump for OP...
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Okay... after a few moments thought... let's discuss a little further.
On this series of scripture... I don't think (nor do I feel John thought) that these men came with any intention whatsoever of being baptized. What John spoke here was speaking (to me) more to the end of the old covenant (old age) and the beginning of the new than baptismal instruction for these men.
At least the first example did pertain to some form of baptism. But this scriptural reference (which you have only quoted one desired scripture has more to do with those who would be her judge than being about her sin. But even in this example... while Jesus did instruct her to sin no more... the intent of the scripture is to demonstrate his forgiveness of her sin.
I understand what you are trying to say here and I do hear your basic statement but it seems that both of these scriptrues are taken out of the context of their intent and applied to this conversation. I do not totally discount your examples but they appear to be taped to the subject with scotch tape rather than being references which speak in context and intent to the subject at hand.
The scriptures you have quoted here are, IMO, reminiscent of those who don't believe in Acts 2:38 salvation quoting scripture where Jesus said "this day" will you be with me in paradise. We then explain that this is before the outpouring of the Holy Ghost and was under a different age & covenant.
Can you share any post Day of Pentecost scriptures that speak to this subject? |
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