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View Poll Results: Does all scripture point to Acts 2:38?
Yes, of course it does. 12 32.43%
No. 20 54.05%
No. But in a way it does. 5 13.51%
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:37 PM
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Daniel, I will say that Acts 2:38 is a clear represention of the death, burial and resurrection.

Paul gives a better, scriptural and visual picture or representation in Romans 6:3,4
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Paul gives a better, scriptural and visual picture or representation in Romans 6:3,4
careful Dan, you will end up having to accept the point paul was making. baptism distroys the power of sin!

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careful Dan, you will end up having to accept the point paul was making. baptism distroys the power of sin!

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Where does he make that point ... because he likens baptism to Christ's death verse 3 .... and HIS burial and resurrection in verse 4.

5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

The blood ... the work of the Lamb destroys sin ... in this context.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:57 PM
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Acts 2:38 is the most important verse in the entire bible.

Peter had the keys to the kingdom.

The day of Pentecost was the 1st day of the New Tesament church.

Acts 2:38 is the response to every NT sinner that wants to be saved.

What scripture is more important than Acts 2:38???????????????
Attempting to elevate one scripture above another reminds me of a story found in the Jewish oral tradition:

A Jew had been imprisoned by a feudal baron was unexpectedly shown some mercy. “Although you must remain my prisoner forever, I will allow you one day of freedom per year, on that day you can return to your family and practice your religion. You have a week to decide which day it shall be every year”.

If the prisoner decides Passover, he can observe Seder, eat matzot, and drink the four cups of wine. Rosh Hashanah and he can hear the shofar and pray in the temple. Maybe it should be a Shabbat or Shavuot, the day the Torah was given. So many mitzvot (commandments in the Torah), to pick one day meant to exclude the possibility of observing the laws connected with another.

He sent a message to his Rabbi David ben Abi Zimra, asking him to decide which day to choose. He was totally unprepared for reply. “The day you must choose is the very first day available, be it a Shabbat, a weekday, or any holiday”

The Rabbi made clear he should take the first available day so that he would not be forced to choose among the mitzvot. To choose one law above another is not just to say that it is more important, but that the other is less important. And how dare we say that any law given by God is less than another?






I have actually read on another thread that someone checked into a motel and noted that the words of our Lord and Savior in John 3:16 had been crossed out and Acts 2:38 written in the margin.

How dare any mortal try to decide which of God’s Words are most Holy!

As to the issue of the thread I would vote yes. All scriptures point to Acts 2:38.

On the other hand I would also say they all point to John 1:14 and even Genesis 1:1.

Even yes Song of Solomon points to Acts 2:38. Christ our Bridegroom. We must obey Acts 2:38 to be in the Bride.

Song of Solomon, who is the Bridegroom? John 1:14

God’s Holy Writ.

Trying to determine which verses are of more import, thereby implying that some are not? Folly to the point of blasphemy.
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:13 PM
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That's too bad .... I hope that it wasn't because you'd have to agree w/ me.
I didn't like the choices given.
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Acts 2:38 is the most important verse in the entire bible.

Peter had the keys to the kingdom.

The day of Pentecost was the 1st day of the New Tesament church.

Acts 2:38 is the response to every NT sinner that wants to be saved.

What scripture is more important than Acts 2:38???????????????
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Attempting to elevate one scripture above another reminds me of a story found in the Jewish oral tradition:

A Jew had been imprisoned by a feudal baron was unexpectedly shown some mercy. “Although you must remain my prisoner forever, I will allow you one day of freedom per year, on that day you can return to your family and practice your religion. You have a week to decide which day it shall be every year”.

If the prisoner decides Passover, he can observe Seder, eat matzot, and drink the four cups of wine. Rosh Hashanah and he can hear the shofar and pray in the temple. Maybe it should be a Shabbat or Shavuot, the day the Torah was given. So many mitzvot (commandments in the Torah), to pick one day meant to exclude the possibility of observing the laws connected with another.

He sent a message to his Rabbi David ben Abi Zimra, asking him to decide which day to choose. He was totally unprepared for reply. “The day you must choose is the very first day available, be it a Shabbat, a weekday, or any holiday”

The Rabbi made clear he should take the first available day so that he would not be forced to choose among the mitzvot. To choose one law above another is not just to say that it is more important, but that the other is less important. And how dare we say that any law given by God is less than another?






I have actually read on another thread that someone checked into a motel and noted that the words of our Lord and Savior in John 3:16 had been crossed out and Acts 2:38 written in the margin.

How dare any mortal try to decide which of God’s Words are most Holy!

As to the issue of the thread I would vote yes. All scriptures point to Acts 2:38.

On the other hand I would also say they all point to John 1:14 and even Genesis 1:1.

Even yes Song of Solomon points to Acts 2:38. Christ our Bridegroom. We must obey Acts 2:38 to be in the Bride.

Song of Solomon, who is the Bridegroom? John 1:14

God’s Holy Writ.

Trying to determine which verses are of more import, thereby implying that some are not? Folly to the point of blasphemy.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:59 PM
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Great story crypt...I wasn't trying to elevate scriptures but if you look at the bible from a historical perspective; the OT is awaiting redemption, the gospels climax with the story of calvary and Acts 2 is the arrival of the awaited promise of the New Covenant; Peter sums up the OT prophecies with the story found in the Gospels and BANG, Acts 2:38 is what we should do to enter the New Covenant.

It is the most pivotal moment in the long history of God's dealing with man.

John 3:16 is the only other verse with such a profound summation of God's plan for mankind's redemption, but doesn't compare in the directness with wich Acts 2:38 addresses the issue of mankind's redemption or what we need to do to achieve it.

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Old 12-13-2007, 07:00 PM
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Does all scripture point to Acts 2:38?
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Great side step totally ignoring the post!

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Acts 2:38 is the most important verse in the entire bible.




A reprehensible and indefensible position.
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