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[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

You and tithesmeister are one and the same. Hatred for preachers....

Brother Nicodemus,
Hatred for preachers?

Have you ever preached to a drunkard that he won’t go to heaven?

Was it because you hated him?

Instead of accusing me of hating preachers, maybe you should quote an example of a preacher receiving tithes in the Bible, because he was a preacher. To my knowledge being a preacher or a pastor or a prophet, never qualified anyone to receive a tithe in the Bible, in the New Testament or the old.

Levite? Yes

Singer? Yes

Widow or orphan? Absolutely

Preacher? No

Pastor? No

Evangelist? Nah

Instead of accusing the brethren, quote some scripture to the brethren. I’ll be waiting.

[Amanah]

Here is a utube of Chris Reed preaching at True Vine Covenant Apostolics, let me know what you think.

[Amanah]

Chris references this prophecy in his message

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

After a while the Sabbatarians quit having anyone get the Holy Spirit and can't figure out why...

Shots fired

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Here is a utube of Chris Reed preaching at True Vine Covenant Apostolics, let me know what you think.

My God....thats some preachin...I needed this Sis.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother Nicodemus,
Hatred for preachers?

Have you ever preached to a drunkard that he won’t go to heaven?

Was it because you hated him?

Instead of accusing me of hating preachers, maybe you should quote an example of a preacher receiving tithes in the Bible, because he was a preacher. To my knowledge being a preacher or a pastor or a prophet, never qualified anyone to receive a tithe in the Bible, in the New Testament or the old.

Levite? Yes

Singer? Yes

Widow or orphan? Absolutely

Preacher? No

Pastor? No

Evangelist? Nah

Instead of accusing the brethren, quote some scripture to the brethren. I’ll be waiting.

That’s the root, for your “ambition” with this tithing issue.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

That’s the root, for your “ambition” with this tithing issue.

So disappointing! Still no scripture?

Do you have any scripture to support your position?

Or is it just talk?

Bring the Word.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother Nicodemus,
Hatred for preachers?

Have you ever preached to a drunkard that he won’t go to heaven?

Was it because you hated him?

Instead of accusing me of hating preachers, maybe you should quote an example of a preacher receiving tithes in the Bible, because he was a preacher. To my knowledge being a preacher or a pastor or a prophet, never qualified anyone to receive a tithe in the Bible, in the New Testament or the old.

Levite? Yes

Singer? Yes

Widow or orphan? Absolutely

Preacher? No

Pastor? No

Evangelist? Nah

Instead of accusing the brethren, quote some scripture to the brethren. I’ll be waiting.

Luke 10:2-10 KJVS
[2] Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
[3] Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
[4] Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
[5] And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
[6] And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
[7] And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
[8] And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
[9] And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
[10] But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,

V.2 talks about the ones he sent as laborers.
V.3 talks about lambs among wolves, that’s very fitting. Think about it tithemeister.
V.4 don’t carry a purse, script, or shoes. Why? Because the house you enter was suppose to take care of you. Further more it goes on to say, if they don’t then your peace will remain with you.
V.7 for the laborer is worthy of his hire.

Your argument before is, I’m a laborer as well, I preach therefore I should receive a tithe. Everyone is a preacher, everyone is a Pastor. Not in the eyes of God, who’s the watchmen, who’s going to give an account? Not wanting to support your Pastor financially is why Jesus said I send you forth into the midst of wolves.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Luke 10:2-10 KJVS
[2] Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
[3] Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
[4] Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
[5] And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
[6] And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
[7] And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
[8] And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
[9] And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
[10] But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,

V.2 talks about the ones he sent as laborers.
V.3 talks about lambs among wolves, that’s very fitting. Think about it tithemeister.
V.4 don’t carry a purse, script, or shoes. Why? Because the house you enter was suppose to take care of you. Further more it goes on to say, if they don’t then your peace will remain with you.
V.7 for the laborer is worthy of his hire.

Your argument before is, I’m a laborer as well, I preach therefore I should receive a tithe. Everyone is a preacher, everyone is a Pastor. Not in the eyes of God, who’s the watchmen, who’s going to give an account? Not wanting to support your Pastor financially is why Jesus said I send you forth into the midst of wolves.

I guess I should have been more specific. Please quote scripture about tithing to a pastor or preacher. I thought it was understood that tithing was the subject.

Anyway . . .
Do you abide in someone else’ home?

Does this describe your ministry?

Is your “tithe” eat and drink?

Just post a scripture that says the pastor is entitled to tithing. That’s all I’m asking. If you can’t, just confess that you can’t support the doctrine with scripture. Even EB, who loves to pretend otherwise, will admit he doesn’t believe in the tithe doctrine. But he does believe in giving.

You are making a lot of false accusations. Just focus on the scripture. If you don’t have scripture maybe you should wonder why you don’t have scripture.

God bless you my brother whom I love enough to point out the truth. Because a lot of people won’t tell you.

I have a question for your consideration . . .

Will a preacher or pastor that lies about tithing and never repents, go to heaven?

How about one who covets?

Or one who steals?

Or one who extorts tithes from the membership at the threat of their very salvation?

1Cor.6

[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Do preachers get a pass?

Think about it.

And notice I quoted scripture that is relevant.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I guess I should have been more specific. Please quote scripture about tithing to a pastor or preacher. I thought it was understood that tithing was the subject.

Anyway . . .
Do you abide in someone else’ home?

Does this describe your ministry?

Is your “tithe” eat and drink?

Just post a scripture that says the pastor is entitled to tithing. That’s all I’m asking. If you can’t, just confess that you can’t support the doctrine with scripture. Even EB, who loves to pretend otherwise, will admit he doesn’t believe in the tithe doctrine. But he does believe in giving.

You are making a lot of false accusations. Just focus on the scripture. If you don’t have scripture maybe you should wonder why you don’t have scripture.

God bless you my brother whom I love enough to point out the truth. Because a lot of people won’t tell you.

I have a question for your consideration . . .

Will a preacher or pastor that lies about tithing and never repents, go to heaven?

How about one who covets?

Or one who steals?

Or one who extorts tithes from the membership at the threat of their very salvation?

1Cor.6

[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Do preachers get a pass?

Think about it.

And notice I quoted scripture that is relevant.

My stand against tithing isnt one out of stinginess. Its exactly the opposite. By making an unscriptural demand of 10% pastors and leaders rob their people of giving freely and liberally without compulsion and coercion. Theres a big difference in being threatened and managed into doing something vs the spirit that swept through the early church that led them to sell all their goods and lay the money at the feet of the apostles.


Malachi 3:8 was a declaration against the Levites who were misusing what had been given to them by the people and in doing so brought a curse upon the whole house of Israel.


The scripture is continually taken out of context to beat the giver into obedience instead of being a reminder to the receivers that what they do with what is given matters...but of course thats all brushed away with mutterings and blusterings of its theirs to do with what they wish and its just the laities duty to obediently give.


Be careful that the amount and the percentage doesnt take presidence over the spirit and attitude its to be movitivated by which is to never be forced.


There is no virtue or holiness taking part in forced redistribution of someone's resources while holding their salvation as collateral.