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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Brother Meyers was a great Christian.
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I agree Brother Scott.
Pastor Meyers was also very effective in spiritual warfare.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
A lot of Meyer's research is like the "Apostolic History Outline". It's not really verifiable, and some things are embellishments. There is also the twisting of Scripture. For example the Christmas tree. The passage used to condemn the Christmas tree is actually about men who go out, cut down a tree, and carve out an idol. It's not about a decorative tree for the season.
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2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. (
Jeremiah 10:2-5)
Truly, not trying to be contentious on this matter, but where do you get that they cut down a tree and
carve out an idol out of the passage above?
Clearly Jeremiah wrote that the heathen cut a tree out of the forest with an axe and
deck it with silver and gold. Do we not today decorate christmas trees with gold ribbons, white lights and silver tinsel? Do we not fasten the tree in a tree holder and water it to keep it living as long as possible? God called people who do this custom "heathen" and that we should not learn the ways of the heathen. He also said: "Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."
Plus...consider that this custom was being practiced long before Christ was born. The Catholic church, which consider themselves a "universal" religion (one size fits all) put our Lord and Savior in with all the other "gods" in their ancient celebration of Yule and sun worship.
Ask any professing pagan or wiccan and they will tell you that they celebrate "Yule" on December 21...the winter solstice.
Consider this article:
Few people realize that the origins of a form of Christmas was pagan & celebrated in Europe long before anyone there had heard of Jesus Christ.
No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ's birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?
The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.
In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.
In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.
Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means "wheel," the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.
The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.
In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ's birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.
Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a
Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: "Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ."
The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.
http://www.essortment.com/christmas-...ins-42543.html
While Christmas is a homey time of the year filled with love and warmth and generosity, I consider this to be a personal conviction bound to oneself only. I have no opinion about anybody else celebrating the Christmas
tradition.
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