Prayer by Verbal Bean

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I don’t believe the temptation was an internal conflict. Perhaps the devil tempted Jesus with fornication or any other sin common to man, that doesn’t mean Jesus desired those things. I read the same thing and was a bit taken back when I read it. I wish he would have expounded a little more on what he meant by temptation. There is a debate in some circles as to whether or not it would have even been possible for Jesus to sin.

Another thing he stated is that the temptation was in the mind of Jesus. :shrugs

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Another thing he stated is that the temptation was in the mind of Jesus. :shrugs

Yeah he did say that. I’m not real sure how much access the devil has to our mind, especially the mind of Jesus who was without sin. I would think that most of the access he has is what we have somehow granted him or subjected ourself
to in someway. By say, for instance, watching Clint Eastwood movies.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Yeah he did say that. I’m not real sure how much access the devil has to our mind, especially the mind of Jesus who was without sin. I would think that most of the access he has is what we have somehow granted him or subjected ourself
to in someway. By say, for instance, watching Clint Eastwood movies.

You didn’t like A Fistful of Dollars?

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by diakonos

You didn’t like A Fistful of Dollars?

Is that a movie?

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Is that a movie?

Yes. Not a western fan, but I enjoyed his westerns as a kid.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I don’t believe the temptation was an internal conflict. Perhaps the devil tempted Jesus with fornication or any other sin common to man, that doesn’t mean Jesus desired those things. I read the same thing and was a bit taken back when I read it. I wish he would have expounded a little more on what he meant by temptation. There is a debate in some circles as to whether or not it would have even been possible for Jesus to sin.

I agree it was not an internal conflict. I’m my opinion we allow things to go to far in our minds and Jesus was perfect so a temptation never went as far as it goes with us..

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What text did he give that supports if one doesn't pray a hour a day he is lost?

Matthew 26:40
And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Matthew 26:40
And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

Although I do believe it is good to pray an hour each day I don’t think it’s required nor do I think that Jesus was implying that in that passage.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Matthew 26:40
And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

That doesn't say they would be lost for not praying one hour.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

That doesn't say they would be lost for not praying one hour.

Read the next verse,

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Remember unless you never read the book, he is talking to ministers. This was a young ministers class he was teaching for the AMF (if I’m not mistaken). So, as a preacher himself growing up with men like Joe Duke, C.R. Free, Elder Shoemake these were men that were mightily used of God. So he is relating to these young preachers that desire to go deep into the spirit realm, that the elders taught him that if you cannot pray for 3 hours or more your not going to make it. Verbal Bean said he believes no less than an hour!

Now, is there a scripture that says “unless you pray one hour each day your going to hell” no there is not. Yet, Jesus does say can you not pray with me for one hour? Then the next verse says, “watch and pray that ye enter not into temptation.” Why would Jesus bring up one hour if it wasn’t important?