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Roxanne Murphy · #**381** 02-02-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

The story of King Saul and David is oft-quoted in circumstances like these. People who fall back on this story and say, "you shouldn't touch the Lord's anointed," need to read the scriptures again.

David did not touch Saul, that is to physically harm him, but he did speak out publicly against Saul. When David went into the cave and found Saul sleeping there, he refused to "touch" or physically harm him. Instead, David takes Saul's spear and jug of water and leaves Saul whole. The next morning, David embarrasses Saul and Abner for not having protection for the king. David goes on to question and criticize Saul.

Fast forward to the early church and ministry of Paul. Paul was a learned man. He knew the scriptures. He knew the story of David and King Saul. Yet, you will not find him anywhere write to "touch not the Lord's anointed." You think Paul wasn't condemned when he first started his ministry? You think everyone in the early church loved Paul and not one person questioned or criticized him? Yet he never writes, in any of his epistles, for people to leave him alone because he's God's anointed.

It's incorrect to try and apply this story and say no one should ever question, rebuke or criticize a Pastor. It's mostly used to silence critics and try to scare them with hell-fire if they dare question a minister who has done wrong. It's not right. It's adding to the word and claiming something that isn't there.

All valid points!

BuckeyeBukaroo · #**382** 06-11-2018, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, please get involved in that.

I'm more interested in Mike Pence running for President.

The testimony of Mike Pence is the spirit of...

houston · #**383** 06-11-2018, 08:38 AM

This troll is or was a regular...
Like Richard Rose.

Evang.Benincasa · #**384** 06-11-2018, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

This troll is or was a regular...
Like Richard Rose.

Yes, it does look like Bucky Buckaroo could be Victor Victoria? Same campy super Pentecostal style.

Pressing-On · #**385** 06-11-2018, 07:04 PM

Funny, I had this thread on my mind when I listened to this message by Jeff Arnold the other day. He brings up the situation we discussed here.

It is an excellent message.

Notwithstanding, The One Word That Will Give You Victory by Jeff Arnold

n david · #**386** 06-11-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

BOTT's best days are behind them. It doesn't help Stockton schedules their indoctrination love fest about the same time.

This post hasn't aged well...

Pressing-On · #**387** 06-11-2018, 07:38 PM

Another excellent message by Jeff Arnold.

The Marvelous Ministry of Mistakes and Miracles

Pressing-On · #**388** 06-11-2018, 07:40 PM

The Throne of Grace by Jeff Arnold

1ofthechosen · #**389** 06-11-2018, 09:42 PM

Ok can someone tell me what Jeff Arnold said, and about who? This thread is confusing.. since it was resurrected.. please and thanks..

Pressing-On · #**390** 06-11-2018, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Ok can someone tell me what Jeff Arnold said, and about who? This thread is confusing.. since it was resurrected.. please and thanks..

I am not getting into it again. I just wanted to post some of his messages after his stroke and after BOTT 14. He has some great stuff. I have always liked him. He always teaches you something and focuses on what we can do in Christ instead of a lot of messages I have heard that are more negative and defeatist.