What was Paul's thorn in the flesh? - Page 39

Bro-Larry · #**381** 06-14-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Thank you. I do. And I accept the fact that you don't agree. We are not all gonna agree on things

Thank you dear Brother. I highly respect your knowledge and wisdom.

Praxeas · #**382** 06-14-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Thank you dear Brother. I highly respect your knowledge and wisdom.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I have to admit that I could be wrong too. It's just that I rarely admit that in the middle of a discussion :-)

Bro-Larry · #**383** 06-14-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Larry...did I talk to you like this?

Anyways, Im just addressing your points. If the others reading want to decide their own opinions that is their choice.

BTW I said sent or allow.

God allowed Satan to test job

Then there is this
Jdg 9:23 And God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the leaders of Shechem, and the leaders of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech,

1Sa 16:14 But the spirit of Jehovah departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from Jehovah terrified him.
1Sa 16:15 And Saul's servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God terrifies you.
1Sa 16:16 Let our lord now command his servants before you to seek out a man who knows to play on a harp. And it shall be, when the evil spirit from God is on you, then he shall play with his hand, and it shall be well with you.

1Ki 22:19 And he said, Hear therefore the Word of Jehovah: I saw Jehovah sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right hand and on His left.
1Ki 22:20 And Jehovah said, Who shall entice Ahab that he may go up and fall at Ramoth in Gilead? And one said this way, and another said that way.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit and stood before Jehovah and said, I will entice him.
1Ki 22:22 And Jehovah said to him, With what? And he said, I will go forth and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And He said, You shall entice him and succeed also. Go forth and do so.
1Ki 22:23 And now, behold, Jehovah has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets, and Jehovah has spoken evil concerning you.

God has to allow what a man allows, regarding himself. God will never force any man against that man's will. Job allowed a spirit from the devil to attach itself to himself, therefore Job had in effect tied God's hands. God had to allow what Job allowed.

Why didn't God come down and slap that fruit out of Eve's hand? God has to allow what you allow, because He had given mankind dominion of all the Earth. God could not go break His word.

In the other scriptures you posted, the same principle applies. However I believe that they are a record of how the speaker was assessing the situation, but I can't prove it. JMO. I just don't believe God deals in evil spirits.

SOUNWORTHY · #**384** 06-14-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

Anyone?

I've always believed it was poor eye sight. I've also heard it was his wife. The one about Gay tendencies is a new one probably dreamed up by someone with gay tendencies to justify themselves. Anyhow I don't swallow that one.

Bro-Larry · #**385** 06-14-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Thank you. I appreciate that. I have to admit that I could be wrong too. It's just that I rarely admit that in the middle of a discussion :-)

I know exactly what you mean, Bro. I know how hard it is for us who are so gifted in knowledge, to sometimes admit that we might be wrong.

Michael Phelps · #**386** 06-15-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Thank you. I appreciate that. I have to admit that I could be wrong too. It's just that I rarely admit that in the middle of a discussion :-)

If you disagree with 1Cor, you are absolutely WRONG! TIC, of course, lol.

He's so certain Paul's thorn was a person, I wonder if he has a name?

I won't be thoroughly convinced unless he can come up with a name