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11-03-2007, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
You forgot Priscilla, didn't you?
Unless you think she just sat by as her husband taught those people and the Bible is wrong when it gives her credit for the same........
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Can you prove that she taught men?
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11-03-2007, 11:49 PM
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Can you show me an apostle after Paul? Can you show me where Paul appointed people specifically to those roles each and every time he sent someone to do a work?
I think it's funny that you and others claim that there were women that existed back in that day to work with and for Paul, but he had women fellowlaborers. Some of those women are named. Some are not, just like there are men who aren't specifically named.
How can you explain women who went to prison with Paul? They weren't thrown there for burning the food....
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Those women must of rode to prison on the back of Deborah's horse.
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11-03-2007, 11:54 PM
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Oddly enough, when referring to the office of a bishop, 'bishop' is a feminine noun.
Kinda blows the 'masculine words mean men only' theory, doesn't it?
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Stop using the Greek, because you have no clue to what the words mean. The office of A BISHOP is feminine because it's a thing, like table or chair, the person itself "Bishop" is masculine because only men can be Bishops.
Go back to the woodshed and study it out. You don't know Koine Greek, sorry.
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11-04-2007, 12:05 AM
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Can you prove that she taught men?
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You can't prove that she did or didn't teach man.
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11-04-2007, 12:10 AM
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You can't prove that she did or didn't teach man.
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Isa 3:12
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and DESTROY the way of thy paths."
Women teaching men was unacceptable in the scriptures.
Prove that any women taught married or single adult men.
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11-04-2007, 12:11 AM
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Can you explain more about how the masculine/feminine works in Greek? I've been trying to find a source via google and it keeps letting me down. I mostly just want to find out what the rules are regarding the use of masculine vs feminine in a document such as the Bible or even in a letter at the time the Epistles were written.
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Stop using the Greek, because you have no clue to what the words mean. The office of A BISHOP is feminine because it's a thing, like table or chair, the person itself "Bishop" is masculine because only men can be Bishops.
Go back to the woodshed and study it out. You don't know Koine Greek, sorry.
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11-04-2007, 12:16 AM
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Oh you imagine. Ok.
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My friend How DO YOU think she lead an army?
All I do know id THAT THOSE THAT DID NOT HELP HER WERE CURSED strange as it may seem to you she judged ALL Israel for 40 years and enjoyed God's blessings...
Hulda told both priests and king what to do USING The words THUS SAITH THE LORD... sounds like she had some spiritual force in her words.
This is a question for you Evangelist B.
If you were to have been born in pagan darkness and ONE woman had the key to bring you the message would you choose eternal pagan darkness and eternity in hell or hear the words of life from a woman preacher? remember it is a woman and she will baptize you because there is no man...
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11-04-2007, 12:20 AM
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Can you explain more about how the masculine/feminine works in Greek? I've been trying to find a source via google and it keeps letting me down. I mostly just want to find out what the rules are regarding the use of masculine vs feminine in a document such as the Bible or even in a letter at the time the Epistles were written.
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Hope this helps, and Google is loaded with information, you must not of typed in your request properly.
196. Gender. – There are three genders: masculine, feminine, and neuter.
a. Gender strictly marks sex-distinction. But in Greek, as in German and French, many inanimate objects are regarded as masculine or feminine. Such words are said to have ‘grammatical’ gender, which is determined only by their form. Words denoting objects without natural gender usually show their grammatical gender by the form of the adjective, as μακρὸς λόγος a long speech, μακρὰ̄ νῆσος a long island, μακρὸν τεῖχος a long wall.
b. The gender of Greek words is usually indicated by means of the article: ὁ for masculine, ἡ for feminine, τό for neuter.
197. Rule of Natural Gender. – Nouns denoting male persons are masculine, nouns denoting female persons are feminine. Thus, ὁ ναύτης seaman, ὁ στρατιώτης soldier, ἡ γυνή woman, ἡ κόρη maiden.
a. A whole class is designated by the masculine: οἱ ἄνθρωποι men, i.e. men and women.
b. Exceptions to the Rule of Natural Gender. – Diminutives in -ιον are neuter (199 d), as τὸ ἀνθρώπιον manikin (ὁ ἄνθρωπος man), τὸ παιδίον little child (male or female, ὁ or ἡ παῖς child), τὸ γύναιον little woman (ἡ γυνή woman). Also the words τέκνον, τέκος child (strictly ‘thing born’), ἀνδράποδον captive.
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198. Common Gender. – Many nouns denoting persons are either masculine or feminine. Thus, ὁ παῖς boy, ἡ παῖς girl, ὁ θεός god, ἡ θεός (ἡ θεά̄ poet.) goddess. So with names of animals: ὁ βοῦς ox, ἡ βοῦς cow, ὁ ἵππος horse, ἡ ἵππος mare.
a. Some names of animals have only one grammatical gender without regard to sex, as ὁ λαγώς he-hare or she-hare, ἡ ἀλώπηξ he-fox or she-fox.
199. Gender of Sexless Objects. – The gender of most nouns denoting sexless objects has to be learned by the endings (211, 228, 255) and by observation. The following general rules should be noted.
a. Masculine are the names of winds, months, and most rivers. Thus, ὁ Βορέᾱς the North Wind, ὁ Ἑκατομβαιών Hecatombaeon, ὁ Κηφισσός Cephissus.
N. – The gender of these proper names is made to correspond to ὁ ἄνεμος wind, ὁ μήν month, ὁ ποταμός river. In the case of winds and rivers the gender may be due in part to personification.
b. Feminine are the names of almost all countries, islands, cities, trees, and plants. Thus, ἡ Ἀττική Attica, ἡ Δῆλος Delos, ἡ Κόρινθος Corinth, ἡ πίτυς pine, ἡ ἄμπελος vine. The gender here follows that of ἡ γῆ or ἡ χώρᾱ land, country, ἡ νῆσος island, ἡ πόλις city, ἡ δρῦς, originally tree in general, but later oak (τὸ δένδρον is the ordinary word for tree).
c. Feminine are most abstract words, that is, words denoting a quality or a condition. Thus, ἡ ἀρετή virtue, ἡ εὔνοια good-will, ἡ ταχύτης swiftness, ἡ ἐλπίς hope.
d. Neuter are diminutives (197 b), words and expressions quoted, letters of the alphabet, infinitives, and indeclinable nouns. Thus, τὸ ὑ̄μεῖς the word ‘you,’ τὸ γνῶθι σεαυτόν the saying ‘learn to know thyself,’ τὸ ἄλφα alpha, τὸ παιδεύειν to educate, τὸ χρεών necessity.
N. – But some names of women end in -ιον (197 b): ἡ Γλυκέριον Glycerium.
200. Remarks. – a. Most of the exceptions to 199 a-b are due to the endings; e.g. ἡ Λήθη Lethe, ἡ Στύξ Styx (rivers of the Lower World), τὸ Ἄργος Argos, ὁ Καλυδών Calydon, τὸ Ἴ̄λιον Ilium, οἱ Δελφοί Delphi, ὁ λωτός lotus.
b. Change in gender is often associated with change in form: ὁ λύκος he-wolf, ἡ λύκαινα she-wolf, ὁ ποιητής poet, ἡ ποιήτρια poetess, ὁ βίοτος and ἡ βιοτή life, ὁ τρόπος manner, ἡ τροπή rout.
c. The gender of one word may influence that of another word of like meaning. Thus ἡ νῆσος island and ἡ λίθος stone are feminine probably because of ἡ γῆ land and ἡ πέτρᾱ rock.
201. Cases. – There are five cases: nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, and vocative. The genitive denotes from as well as of, the dative denotes to or for and also by, with, on, in, at, etc. The other cases are used as in Latin.
a. The genitive, dative, and accusative are called oblique cases to distinguish them from the nominative and vocative.
202. The vocative is often like the nominative in the singular; in the plural it is always the same. Nominative, vocative, and accusative have the same form in neuter words.
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11-04-2007, 12:21 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Remember many women missionaries labored alone in some of the darkest parts of the earth...
I have no daughters that are preachers only sons...so I have no ambitions trying to promote women just a sincere respect for women that have gone into places where never His Name was ever known.
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11-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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Hope this helps, and Google is loaded with information, you must not of typed in your request properly.
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Thank you! That did help.
I figured it was a user error re: google. Any suggestions what I should be typing in to find the sort of thing you posted here?
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