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07-21-2017, 11:20 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Jesus had "the goods," but that wasn't how He operated. Instead, His "goods" wasn't demonstrated where there was unbelief (see Matthew 13:58).
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So now if someone doesn't receive instant healing, and they turn to earthly means to manage symptoms, they are guilty of belief? Jesus refused to heal in that town because they rejected Him and refused to believe.
Please note, Peter used the power on a beggar who didn't even expect it. Why can't preachers use that kind of power? The one needing a healing isn't always to blame when preachers lack power.
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07-21-2017, 11:23 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Your issues don't include you being shot please explain?
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I explained all I'm comfortable talking about in, I believe it was, post #18.
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07-21-2017, 11:52 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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So now if someone doesn't receive instant healing, and they turn to earthly means to manage symptoms, they are guilty of belief? Jesus refused to heal in that town because they rejected Him and refused to believe.
Please note, Peter used the power on a beggar who didn't even expect it. Why can't preachers use that kind of power? The one needing a healing isn't always to blame when preachers lack power.
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So is the solution to give up and go to the witchdoctor?
Or to find out why you think the power is lacking?
BTW, why did Paul leave Trophimus sick in Miletum?
Also, the beggar Peter healed at the Temple, had been there everyday, but somehow got missed by Jesus? Did he need counseling for depression because Jesus forgot to heal him one of those days?
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07-22-2017, 12:11 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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So now if someone doesn't receive instant healing, and they turn to earthly means to manage symptoms, they are guilty of belief?
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"Guilty of "belief"? Please explain.
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Jesus refused to heal in that town because they rejected Him and refused to believe.
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Jesus refused? No, they refused Him--hence "their unbelief."
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Please note, Peter used the power on a beggar who didn't even expect it.
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Actually that is not true. Here's what it says:
Acts 3:5....And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.
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Why can't preachers use that kind of power
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Who says they don't? I believe this question exposes the real reason why you promote man's "healing" over Jesus'.
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The one needing a healing isn't always to blame when preachers lack power.
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Preachers only have such power when it is given them. That is according to Jesus' will, not their own. Evidently you don't like it, but Jesus did say He couldn't do many miracles because of the unbelief of those near Him.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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07-22-2017, 12:18 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by Aquila
So now if someone doesn't receive instant healing, and they turn to earthly means to manage symptoms, they are guilty of belief? Jesus refused to heal in that town because they rejected Him and refused to believe.
Please note, Peter used the power on a beggar who didn't even expect it. Why can't preachers use that kind of power? The one needing a healing isn't always to blame when preachers lack power.
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Give it up already, it's over.
You admitted that the apostles wouldn't of held a group session but use the power of the Gospel. Listen, Hoss, it isn't about winning an argument. May lands you must be a real pain to deal with in person.
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07-22-2017, 12:23 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Who says they don't? I believe this question exposes the real reason why you promote man's "healing" over Jesus'.
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Brother Burk I think you got it.
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07-22-2017, 12:32 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Why don't one of you preachers with Holy Ghost power fly into Aquila's home town and pray over him, demonstrate the gooods.
I Cor 2:4-5
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I just read this again and it looks like you believe preachers can fly to cities powered by the Holy Ghost? You also believe the word "good" has three Os?
They believe they can fly?
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07-22-2017, 02:18 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Give it up already, it's over.
You admitted that the apostles wouldn't of held a group session but use the power of the Gospel. Listen, Hoss, it isn't about winning an argument. May lands you must be a real pain to deal with in person. 
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I don't believe psychology can cure anything that talking things through with Jesus, or a good friend, can't cure. In most cases, a person just needs a good listener to help them process things that are bothering them.
However there are some wounds that run so deep it takes a miracle, a supernatural healing, to deliver one. I believe that if miraculous healing doesn't take place, and if the condition is damaging relationships, putting one's livelihood in danger, involves thoughts of suicide, or thoughts of hurting others, some professional counseling and/or therapies might be the lesser evil. If EMDR helps relieve flashbacks and thoughts of suicide, is that not better than preaching a funeral?
Therapies and counseling can only help manage symptoms. We know that only Jesus can heal one completely.
What do you advise a vet, or survivor of trauma, suffering from PTSD after it is evident that healing isn't going to be instantaneous?
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07-22-2017, 02:22 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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I just read this again and it looks like you believe preachers can fly to cities powered by the Holy Ghost? You also believe the word "good" has three Os?
They believe they can fly?

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You never answered my question. Do you have a 100% success rate in praying for divine healing?
Because if you do, I'm sure thousands of PTSD sufferers would be willing to fly to you.
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07-22-2017, 02:55 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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You never answered my question. Do you have a 100% success rate in praying for divine healing?
Because if you do, I'm sure thousands of PTSD sufferers would be willing to fly to you.
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Do shrinks have a 100% success rate in fixing people?
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