Don't you love hindsight? It's so much easier than, say, foresight. I bet Adam and Eve wished they could go back and rethink the fateful decision to eat that fruit! But how were they supposed to know that when God said "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" that He really meant "...you will bring the curse of death upon yourselves and all your descendants throughout eternity".
"... and I'll kick you out of the garden so you can't eat the live-forever fruit"!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it. . . .
20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
There is so much to learn from this! What does God expect from us? (No excuses!) What will happen if we don't produce? What will happen when we have faith in God?
Besides the obvious lessons for us, is this historically accurate? Did it actually happen? Could you watch it unfold if you went back there in a time machine? Oh, be sure to bring a camcorder. I want to see it, too!
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Originally Posted by Timmy
How literal is too literal?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
"... and I'll kick you out of the garden so you can't eat the live-forever fruit"!
I wonder: what would have happened if God hadn't kept them away from the Tree of Life? They ate the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and must therefore die. But, He felt the need to kick them out of the garden, and guard the way, "lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever". Uh. OK, I guess that answers my question. They would live forever, if they had eaten it. That tree must have had some powerful fruit, to override that death curse God put on Adam! Wow!
Say, whatever happened to that tree? Destroyed in the flood? Is it the same "tree of life" as the one in Rev 2:7, 22:2, and 12:14?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I wonder: what would have happened if God hadn't kept them away from the Tree of Life? They ate the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and must therefore die. But, He felt the need to kick them out of the garden, and guard the way, "lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever". Uh. OK, I guess that answers my question. They would live forever, if they had eaten it. That tree must have had some powerful fruit, to override that death curse God put on Adam! Wow!
Say, whatever happened to that tree? Destroyed in the flood? Is it the same "tree of life" as the one in Rev 2:7, 22:2, and 12:14?
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
You should though Timmy, don't you know church attendance is commanded in the bible :P So if you don't go to church your bound to go to hell :P jkjk
By the way I'm in a really sarcastic mood today FYI
Yeah, Timotheus, we are not supposed to forsake the assembling of ourselves together. Besides, they need us to show up and to bring our hymn book, prayer book, and check book even though we can give online through paypal now at some churches.
Yeah, Timotheus, we are not supposed to forsake the assembling of ourselves together. Besides, they need us to show up and to bring our hymn book, prayer book, and check book even though we can give online through paypal now at some churches.
Hey, I assemble myself together every morning!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Don't you love hindsight? It's so much easier than, say, foresight. I bet Adam and Eve wished they could go back and rethink the fateful decision to eat that fruit! But how were they supposed to know that when God said "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" that He really meant "...you will bring the curse of death upon yourselves and all your descendants throughout eternity".
Adam must have said "Sure wish I had a time machine."
Of course, the original warning should have been enough, even it if was a bit understated. (A bit?!) I mean seriously, who'd want to die the very same day you eat something? Again, a time machine would have been nice. Actually, it probably wouldn't help. Tell Eve not to believe the serpent, fill her in on the full details of the consequences of eating the fruit, and, well, now she has three conflicting stories to think about, instead of just two.
See, the real problem was a lack of knowledge of good and evil. She and Adam had no idea what a lie was, so were unprepared to deal with it, or to figure out who was lying. So, in order to know how to make the right choice, they'd have to eat that fruit. Talk about a Catch 22!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Been thinking about extraterrestrial life, lately. What kind of societies might develop? What kind of religions would they have? Would there be a bunch of false religions and one true one? Would they need redemption? Would their first two beings have been given free will? Would there have been a tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Would there have been a serpent? What if the first two beings didn't sin? Might their kids have sinned, or their kids, or their kids? Would they have had the same requirements we do -- 100% perfection? Would they have the same penalty for falling short? Would God have had a plan of redemption for them? Would it be the same plan he gave us, or something different? Would he have inspired a book to be written with all the details, clearly explained?
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