"sometimes we mistakenly keep taking on more, convinced we must be doing the godly thing. But in reality, we may be acting more like Pharisees than disciples, choosing to look good on the outside, while dying on the inside. Ironically that's when those around us lose out, because of our lack of obedience.
Read Mat 23:27-28. Since it's not necessarily wrong "to look beautiful on the outside," where did the Pharisees cross the line into disobedience?
How do you sometimes slip into this same sin?"
This study wasn't about standards, it was about moderation in general and time management specifically. But the question hit home.
MOMary that is good stuff!
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I’m going to use this scripture on FB today….I’m on a bit of a campaign. lol Questioning, no one wants to question.
I would have never imagined how much damage can come from the look or identity and just how much people put their faith in it. My oldest daughter has been “floundering” for a while on her own. I’ve just backed off realizing that she would come around in time. I had no clue just how much her experience with God was wrapped up in her outward appearance. She told me last night that I had pulled her safety and security. She stood crying and said she found she was broken inside she didn’t know how to have a relationship outside the appearance, it was hard. She expressed how hard it was to accept she didn’t have to work for her salvation…so struggling with grace by faith. She said part of her just wants to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, but she knows that she can’t do that anymore, it will never work. I’ve been working on damage control… whew, got my work cut out for me.
Apostolic Identity is doing nothing but providing a false front for so many people. The standards are idols as they have taken the place of God in their lives. You pull that away, and there isn’t enough of a relationship to survive and it is sad…sad. I realize that it isn’t that way with everyone, but with so many it is.
FB- I know this was hard for you and your daughter, but it great that she is discovering this so early in her life. She is at the beginning of her life and has time to build a relationship with God. I did not slow down and discover this until much later in my walk with God.
"She stood crying and said she found she was broken inside she didn’t know how to have a relationship outside the appearance, it was hard".
So sad.
Yeah. I didn't respond, because I have no idea what to say. Except I feel for her. And will pray.
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
I see we have another AFF member posting under a pseudo name. Timmy is that you? No, Timmy would just post under his own name.
You people are too suspicious. Can't you just leave a guy alone and let him make fun of Aristotle and his education? Plus, I love my avatar!! It's the best on AFF!! Actually, Dr. McLeod inspired me to take another look at my Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. I haven't looked at that thing in years!
You people are too suspicious. Can't you just leave a guy alone and let him make fun of Aristotle and his education? Plus, I love my avatar!! It's the best on AFF!!
We're suspicious people, yes we are,
We're suspicious people, yes we are,
Been baptized in Jesus name...
Now watching as you change your name,
We're suspicious people, yes we are....
No, really, TM, I don't know if I should be suspicious or not... but the Lord laid this song on my heart... oh, oops, those aren't the real words?
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Actually, Dr. McLeod inspired me to take another look at my Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. I haven't looked at that thing in years!
Timmy... are you sure that's not you? j/k
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
You know Freeatlast, I guess the concept of applying the scripture across diverse cultures has eluded you. We apply scripture according to the "spirit" of the scripture in some cases. Through out ALL the existence of the world, believe it or not, things have always be for either a MAN or a WOMEN. Women garments and Men garments. Mens bathrooms and Womens bathrooms. That which pertaineth! It's a CORRECT translation and a literal one at that.
My question to you then is, at what point do we say that pants are not just men's apparel.
Because I think that EVERYONE can agree that culture changes apparel drastically over the course of time. Men have only worn pants (as we view them today) for the last 300 years or so. So at what point in time does our concept of men and womens apparel shift to accommodate those changes, and who decides it?
Because if we go off of what the "standard" is today, the men of 300-400 years ago would have been considered, for lack of a better word, "girly." But in their society, they were definitely not! If we abide by what you are saying here, those men would have been outside of the will of God, even though pants did not even exist then.
These are the things that bother me in the extreme, because even if you think that this scripture is something that applies to our time, and it applies to our physical apparel, at some point you have to "man up" and admit that this issue has to viewed through the norms of the society that we live in. And I think that you cannot (as bad as you might want to) say that dresses are the norm for women of this society. Or, at the very least, within a very few years, that will absolutely not be true.
I have no problem with a pastor or spiritual leader saying that he would like the people in his assembly to follow this practice for modesty issues, but when it becomes a heaven or hell issue, I draw the line. Too obscure of a scripture, with too many varied opinions and interpretations by too many educated people. You cannot say that one scripture of debatable intention and meaning has the power to overcome grace, erase a persons walk with God, and send them to Hell. Well, at least I can't say it, and I don't believe it.
You people are too suspicious. Can't you just leave a guy alone and let him make fun of Aristotle and his education? Plus, I love my avatar!! It's the best on AFF!! Actually, Dr. McLeod inspired me to take another look at my Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. I haven't looked at that thing in years!
I've been hanging around enough to know I have cause to be suspicious! LOL!
We're suspicious people, yes we are,
We're suspicious people, yes we are,
Been baptized in Jesus name...
Now watching as you change your name,
We're suspicious people, yes we are....
No, really, TM, I don't know if I should be suspicious or not... but the Lord laid this song on my heart... oh, oops, those aren't the real words?
Timmy... are you sure that's not you? j/k
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