Divorce and remarriage

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Esaias

It's the one single thing the Roman Catholic Church pretty much understands correctly: people are generally either too dumb or too personally biased to be allowed to determine doctrine for themselves.

Scripture? j/k

I don't disagree with the statement, but just out of curiosity, do you know if RCC has stated this explicitly anywhere?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

Scripture? j/k

I don't disagree with the statement, but just out of curiosity, do you know if RCC has stated this explicitly anywhere?

Just about every catholic I have ever discussed doctrine has stated that in one form or another.

Holy Tradition, Magisterium, and Ecumenical Councils decide doctrine per the RCC, individuals reading the Bible for themselves and identifying doctrine lead to schism, heresy, blasphemy, the multiplication of sects, and (according to Traditionalists at least) the proliferation of humanism, degeneracy, and the downfall of western civilisation.

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Just about every catholic I have ever discussed doctrine has stated that in one form or another.

Holy Tradition, Magisterium, and Ecumenical Councils decide doctrine per the RCC, individuals reading the Bible for themselves and identifying doctrine lead to schism, heresy, blasphemy, the multiplication of sects, and (according to Traditionalists at least) the proliferation of humanism, degeneracy, and the downfall of western civilisation.

Certainly for me there is the idea that we should decide as a church (that definition can be left vague for our purposes just now) what correct doctrine is.

the proliferation of humanism, degeneracy, and the downfall of western civilisation.

you've met those guys too then

[james34]

Gen 20:3 - But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by james34

Gen 20:3 - But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife

Point being?

[Esphes45]

I told someone yesterday that separation and divorce are legal things. They don't become spiritual things until you re-marry.

Meaning Separation and Divorce by itself is not wrong. It becomes wrong when you remarry.

Was I wrong?

I don't think I was but I do appreciate other perspectives. I care about truth according to the Word.

[good samaritan]

Why would someone get a divorce unless there is a spiritual problem? Not loving your spouse, not forgiving your spouse, not nurturing or providing for your spouse, etc…. There is no legitimate reason for a Christian couple to separate and divorce that is spiritually o.k. We make vows the day of our wedding in the sight of God, and those vows are not fulfilled while we are separated . Although, if separation occurs we are to remain single or be reconciled (only biblical alternative).

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Why would someone get a divorce unless there is a spiritual problem? Not loving your spouse, not forgiving your spouse, not nurturing or providing for your spouse, etc…. There is no legitimate reason for a Christian couple to separate and divorce that is spiritually o.k. We make vows the day of our wedding in the sight of God, and those vows are not fulfilled while we are separated . Although, if separation occurs we are to remain single or be reconciled (only biblical alternative).

Except that you are wrong (biblically).

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Except that you are wrong (biblically).

1 Corinthians 7:10
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1 Corinthians 7:11
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

[good samaritan]

How is making a vow to God to love, honor, and cherish for better or worse till death do we part not a spiritual problem if we break? It is a covenant relationship that can only be broken by death or infidelity. The Bible compares marriage to his relationship with the church.