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Old 01-28-2010, 02:00 PM
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What about a mix of both? Meaning some would cross dress in hopes of conducting homosexual behaviour?
Possibly homosexual, or possibly to sneak in somewhere they shouldn't be.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:01 PM
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I have read it that neighboring pagan cultures to Isreal would, before going into balttle, the warriors would lay aside their warrior clothes and armements and done the clothing of their women. The women would put on the apparel of their soldier husbands and together they would dance around the fire to appease the favor of their gods for his blessing as they went into the battle the following day.

This WOULD explain the abomination part of that, fo r this would be idoltry.

Israel was warned not to take up this practice of the pagan neighbors
That would seem to be a possible explanation.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:09 PM
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Possibly homosexual, or possibly to sneak in somewhere they shouldn't be.
Had a funny dream last night. I was at the hospital and had to use the restroom. They have a "unisex" restroom there, in real life. It's for one person at a time: one toilet and a sink, and ya lock the door. Simple. In my dream, though, there were a bunch of sinks and stalls. I thought, mmmkay, that's odd. But at least there's a little bit of privacy. I entered a stall, and wouldn't you know it? There were glass walls between the potties!
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:13 PM
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I taught a Bible Study when I pastored, entitled "Examining our Beliefs", and I used this scripture as my basis:

2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?


We were going to investigate what we believed, and back it up with scripture. However, I caught so much flack from the congregation that I pulled the plug early on the series, because I had people get up, yell at me, and walk out in the middle of Bible Study!

One lady, who's children were backslidden, said "I'm not taking this workbook home, I don't want my kids to see the title! I don't want them to think we're questioning any thing!"

It wasn't long after that that I resigned, lol.
I’m going to use this scripture on FB today….I’m on a bit of a campaign. lol Questioning, no one wants to question.

I would have never imagined how much damage can come from the look or identity and just how much people put their faith in it. My oldest daughter has been “floundering” for a while on her own. I’ve just backed off realizing that she would come around in time. I had no clue just how much her experience with God was wrapped up in her outward appearance. She told me last night that I had pulled her safety and security. She stood crying and said she found she was broken inside she didn’t know how to have a relationship outside the appearance, it was hard. She expressed how hard it was to accept she didn’t have to work for her salvation…so struggling with grace by faith. She said part of her just wants to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, but she knows that she can’t do that anymore, it will never work. I’ve been working on damage control… whew, got my work cut out for me.

Apostolic Identity is doing nothing but providing a false front for so many people. The standards are idols as they have taken the place of God in their lives. You pull that away, and there isn’t enough of a relationship to survive and it is sad…sad. I realize that it isn’t that way with everyone, but with so many it is.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:16 PM
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I’m going to use this scripture on FB today….I’m on a bit of a campaign. lol Questioning, no one wants to question.

I would have never imagined how much damage can come from the look or identity and just how much people put their faith in it. My oldest daughter has been “floundering” for a while on her own. I’ve just backed off realizing that she would come around in time. I had no clue just how much her experience with God was wrapped up in her outward appearance. She told me last night that I had pulled her safety and security. She stood crying and said she found she was broken inside she didn’t know how to have a relationship outside the appearance, it was hard. She expressed how hard it was to accept she didn’t have to work for her salvation…so struggling with grace by faith. She said part of her just wants to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, but she knows that she can’t do that anymore, it will never work. I’ve been working on damage control… whew, got my work cut out for me.

Apostolic Identity is doing nothing but providing a false front for so many people. The standards are idols as they have taken the place of God in their lives. You pull that away, and there isn’t enough of a relationship to survive and it is sad…sad. I realize that it isn’t that way with everyone, but with so many it is.
Holy Smokes..ForeverBlessed....still got a tear in my eye..just a sec.

So very many are affected by this syndrome.

Praying for you guys now.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:21 PM
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Notice something about that little guy? (He's not wearing pants! )
no, because his wife told him to drop them at the dry cleaners.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:23 PM
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:26 PM
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I’m going to use this scripture on FB today….I’m on a bit of a campaign. lol Questioning, no one wants to question.

I would have never imagined how much damage can come from the look or identity and just how much people put their faith in it. My oldest daughter has been “floundering” for a while on her own. I’ve just backed off realizing that she would come around in time. I had no clue just how much her experience with God was wrapped up in her outward appearance. She told me last night that I had pulled her safety and security. She stood crying and said she found she was broken inside she didn’t know how to have a relationship outside the appearance, it was hard. She expressed how hard it was to accept she didn’t have to work for her salvation…so struggling with grace by faith. She said part of her just wants to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, but she knows that she can’t do that anymore, it will never work. I’ve been working on damage control… whew, got my work cut out for me.

Apostolic Identity is doing nothing but providing a false front for so many people. The standards are idols as they have taken the place of God in their lives. You pull that away, and there isn’t enough of a relationship to survive and it is sad…sad. I realize that it isn’t that way with everyone, but with so many it is.
This is what I do respect and honor, Lisa, when you said that you backed off and gave her room. We cannot make someone be who they cannot be. We must allow the Lord to do the work. We must allow the Lord to lead.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:40 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

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AQP great post. My thoughts exactly. Even if all those refence books are wrong as Will McLeod says...there still is NO scripture to support Dresses only on women as our "Apostolic Idenity"
You know Freeatlast, I guess the concept of applying the scripture across diverse cultures has eluded you. We apply scripture according to the "spirit" of the scripture in some cases. Through out ALL the existence of the world, believe it or not, things have always be for either a MAN or a WOMEN. Women garments and Men garments. Mens bathrooms and Womens bathrooms. That which pertaineth! It's a CORRECT translation and a literal one at that.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:43 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

Something from Bible study last night...

"sometimes we mistakenly keep taking on more, convinced we must be doing the godly thing. But in reality, we may be acting more like Pharisees than disciples, choosing to look good on the outside, while dying on the inside. Ironically that's when those around us lose out, because of our lack of obedience.
Read Mat 23:27-28. Since it's not necessarily wrong "to look beautiful on the outside," where did the Pharisees cross the line into disobedience?
How do you sometimes slip into this same sin?"


This study wasn't about standards, it was about moderation in general and time management specifically. But the question hit home. We identify with something, put up some appearance, but it's only an appearance. When we live for God, we may do some things and not do others out of our love for God, but we should not be given a list of rules, "Do this, wear that, don't go there and thou shalt be saved." When that happens, and it happens quite easily, we are in trouble.

Stereotypes can be a very dangerous thing, and stereotypes are often based on appearances, with no other basis. Because of the way someone looks we think they are lazy, organized, fun, etc. and react accordingly. But looks can be deceiving...
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