Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by rico

first thing in the morning a person could either smoke a cigarette, drink a cup of coffee, or eat an apple to help them wake up. Which do you think god prefers? Summing up the posts around here, the cigarette smoker ends up in hell, the coffee drinker is holy, and the apple eater is a legalist!

hahahahahahaha now that is the truth!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Rico

First thing in the morning a person could either smoke a cigarette, drink a cup of coffee, or eat an apple to help them wake up. Which do you think God prefers? Summing up the posts around here, the cigarette smoker ends up in Hell, the coffee drinker is holy, and the apple eater is a legalist!

What happens to you if you have a cup of coffee and a cigarette?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

How do you know if I drink coffee?

Are you stalking me?

Do you? How about soda? Do you drink soda? What about good old fashioned chocolate? Do you eat chocolate? Confess, PP. You are a closet caffeine addict!!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

What happens to you if you have a cup of coffee and a cigarette?

Romans 7!

[LUKE2447]

Again my point PP is that you break God's law with meat that God did not consider food. Then say someone is not going to hell on things that are clearly as bad for you. All this based on the same principle! It defiles your health!

[Rico]

Some of you guys wimped out awfully quick. We're only up to page 35. That's nothing for a good old fashioned AFF standoff!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Again my point PP is that you break God's law with meat that God did not consider food and things that are clearly as bad for you yet you make a hell bound person out of the same principle! It defiles your health!

Genesis 9:3
Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Genesis 9:3
Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

Yes and God limited what was food in the beginning. This is a refence to types not what food. God gave specific plants to eat that he considered food inthe garden. Not all plants where given as food. Same with meat not all are for human consumption.

"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." Genesis 9:3
"Everything" is defined by the change from a plant-only diet to a new diet consisting of plants "and" animals that is "everything." But that doesn't mean one could eat "every" animal anymore than one could eat "every" plant. Let's look at the passage concerning the original vegetable diet:
"....I have given every green herb for food, and it was so." Genesis 1:30
Now "every green herb" above doesn't mean "every single existing green herb." It means "every green herb that is appropriate for food." Clearly neither Adam or Noah were eating poison ivy salads or snacking on poisonous berries! Does Scripture support limiting green herbs this way? Look at Genesis 6:21: "And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.'" Note that Noah is commanded to take all the edible foods into the ark. So then, not 'every green herb' was edible, only 'every green herb given for food' was edible.

We know God made known to Noah the distinction between clean and unclean animals (Genesis 7:2,8); it is clear from earlier texts that God had instructed man on which green things were suitable for human consumption; it is only logical that God also revealed which animals were fit for human consumption when he broadened man's diet to include animals ... clean animals. Basically, the clean animals that could be sacrificed were also the animals which could be eaten; later confirmed by reiteration in the Torah given at Sinai.

[LUKE2447]

Also the clear teaching of scripture God clearly considers certain meats not "foods" or beneficial for human consumption thus why God calls them an abomination unto you!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Yes and God limited what was food in the beginning. This is a refence to types not what food. God gave specific plants to eat that he considered food inthe garden. Not all plants where given as food. Same with meat not all are for human consumption.

"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." Genesis 9:3
"Everything" is defined by the change from a plant-only diet to a new diet consisting of plants "and" animals that is "everything." But that doesn't mean one could eat "every" animal anymore than one could eat "every" plant. Let's look at the passage concerning the original vegetable diet:
"....I have given every green herb for food, and it was so." Genesis 1:30
Now "every green herb" above doesn't mean "every single existing green herb." It means "every green herb that is appropriate for food." Clearly neither Adam or Noah were eating poison ivy salads or snacking on poisonous berries! Does Scripture support limiting green herbs this way? Look at Genesis 6:21: "And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.'" Note that Noah is commanded to take all the edible foods into the ark. So then, not 'every green herb' was edible, only 'every green herb given for food' was edible.

We know God made known to Noah the distinction between clean and unclean animals (Genesis 7:2,8); it is clear from earlier texts that God had instructed man on which green things were suitable for human consumption; it is only logical that God also revealed which animals were fit for human consumption when he broadened man's diet to include animals ... clean animals. Basically, the clean animals that could be sacrificed were also the animals which could be eaten; later confirmed by reiteration in the Torah given at Sinai.

Everything doesn't mean everything. right I got it. Look if you want to obey laws that were given only to Israel go ahead, but don't put the rest of us under your bondage.