Apostolic Feminists - Page 34

Sister Alvear · #**331** 03-31-2007, 04:55 PM

The history of women in the Church has been paradoxical and a test of fellowship among some circles. I believe that makes Jesus weep.
It is obvious that if we take Deborah out of the Bible, Israel remains in bondage, if we take out Ester, Israel is killed, if we take out Huldah, Israel remains without someone to interpret the scroll. If we take out Mary we remain without a Savior, if we take out the women at the tomb no one knows He has risen. So at many key times God in his wisdom chooses to use women. Why? I just really don’t know. Maybe it is because of his sense of humor. Does not his own word say his ways are past finding out? On so many occasions when man has thought they have figured God out He shows up and does exactly opposite to our human thinking.

Sister Alvear · #**332** 03-31-2007, 05:01 PM

The plan of God was not just revealed to men but to women as well in the Old Testament. It was to Rebecca not to Isaac that God disclosed that Jacob was favored over Esau. It was not Barak whom God chose to judge Israel and to lead an army, but it was Deborah the notable prophetess.
There was even a time when Moses the great lawgiver was saved by an entire group of women. It was Esther that He chose to preserve a nation. It was to Samson’s mother not his father that the angel gave instructions. When the priest and scribe asked for a word from the Lord they came to Huldah. It was to her and not to her husband, nor to the prophet Jeremiah that the word of the Lord came. Abraham heard God say, "Listen to Sarah's voice. Romans 16:1-2 reads that Phoebe had labored with the Apostle. In Romans 16:3, Pricilla is called by Paul, my helper, fellow helper RV. Romans 16:12 Salute Trephine and Tryphosa, who labor in the Lord. Salute the beloved Persis, which labored much in the Lord. Trephine, and Tryphosa, women, and who labored much in the Lord.

Sister Alvear · #**333** 03-31-2007, 05:02 PM

I Corinthians 16:16, that ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us, and laboreth. (Be in subjection, RV) to everyone that helpeth with us and laboreth.

Sister Alvear · #**334** 03-31-2007, 05:03 PM

In Acts 18:26 and 2 Timothy 4:19, the apostle Paul gives Priscilla the honor of first mention. Note also his salutation in Romans 16:3. Greet Pricilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus. When Pricilla and Aqua heard him, they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly (Acts 18:26). It is highly significant that both Pricilla and Aquila are named as instructing and illuminating Apollos. There can be no question that here is a woman engaged in teaching ministry, and she is teaching a man. Not that it may be the rule but probably the exception of the rule however she WAS teaching.

Felicity · #**335** 03-31-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyRev

Oh good grief. So a woman isn't supposed to raise her voice, emphasize, get excited, etc.?

Thats all this clip demonstrates...nothing more.

Feminine mannerisms are defined according to the eye, ear and opinion of the beholder. Such definitions vary greatly from person to person.

I think it's okay for a voice to be raise, and emphasis and excitment is fine, but a lady is always expected to act like a lady and when the line is crossed it becoms unattractive.

Sister Alvear · #**336** 03-31-2007, 05:07 PM

Throughout the Bible there are evidences of women teaching and leading. Deborah as prophetess taught as well as led. Miriam was a leader. Paul spoke of women co-laborers, deacons and gospel workers. Certainly they taught. Their offices and titles show proof that certain women were used in the gifts of the spirit (I Corinthians 11:5; Acts 21:9)...”Teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord” (Colossians 3:16). Did you notice singing is also a teaching ministry? O consistency thou art a jewel!

Newman · #**337** 03-31-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

I think it's okay for a voice to be raise, and emphasis and excitment is fine, but a lady is always expected to act like a lady and when the line is crossed it becoms unattractive.

What I saw in the video clip was a woman who was among women; that were worshipping God. Her voice was loud as it needed to be; if it were to be heard anymore since some prayer was already going on.

Given the fervent prayer one suspects that there must have been something said of value to someone there that day.

Felicity · #**338** 03-31-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman

What I saw in the video clip was a woman who was among women; that were worshipping God. Her voice was loud as it needed to be; if it were to be heard anymore since some prayer was already going on.

Given the fervent prayer one suspects that there must have been something said of value to someone there that day.

I watched the clip. There were things of value said. I don't think anybody is disputing this?

Newman · #**339** 03-31-2007, 05:24 PM

And as an aside, there is nothing very lady like giving birth but of necesity life happens.

Sister Alvear · #**340** 03-31-2007, 05:29 PM

headed to church....see you my friends...