What Are You Reading Currently, 2.0

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Colossians 1:16 ESV
(16) For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.


Colossians 1:16 Geneva
(16) For by him were all things created, which are in heauen, and which are in earth, thinges visible and inuisible: whether they be Thrones or Dominions, or Principalities, or Powers, all things were created by him, and for him,

Colossians 1:16 SRV
(16) Porque por él fueron criadas todas las cosas que están en los cielos, y que están en la tierra, visibles é invisibles; sean tronos, sean dominios, sean principados, sean potestades; todo fué criado por él y para él.


Colossians 1:16 Coverdale
(16) For by him were all thinges created, that are in heauen and earth, thinges vysible and thinges inuysible, whether they be maiesties or lordshippes, ether rules or powers: All thinges are created by him and in him,

I posted the definition regarding the use of the preposition "en" and its meanings, particularly when speaking of instrumentality or means BY WHICH something is accomplished.

Jesus Christ is the ONE who created all things. Furthermore, God created all things BY Christ, because according to Paul Christ is the WISDOM OF GOD, and the Scriptures declare that God made all things BY WISDOM. Moreover, Christ is the WORD made flesh, who created all things, and the Bible teaches clearly that God created all things BY HIS WORD. So not only do I have the grammar on my side, I have the THEOLOGY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT and of THE OLD TESTAMENT on my side. IF however you eliminate the idea that God created all things BY Christ, but instead have them created only "in" Christ, Christ is no longer the CREATOR but rather the CONTAINER.

Which makes no sense.

http://netbible.com/
You totally missed it, what im saying. Not a container, I'm talking about it's made in and through Him as a Blueprint.,a plan, a reason Just as John 1 is talking about.

Because "He is the One that was that is, that is to come, the Almighty." They are one and the same, just Father and Son is denoting relationship. One was the flesh version, of the invisible Spirit. So either way you go, it was made by Him. He didn't have to manifest any bodily form to create world's, He wasn't painting a picture like Bob Ross..

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Because "He is the One that was that is, that is to come, the Almighty." They are one and the same, just Father and Son is denoting relationship. One was the flesh version, of the invisible Spirit. So either way you go, it was made BY Him. He didn't have to manifest any bodily form to create world's, He wasn't painting a picture like Bob Ross..

EXACTLY what I was saying, as were many translations (some of which I posted).

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

EXACTLY what I was saying, as were many translations (some of which I posted).

But it was also Created in and through Him, as the NET and the original text states,and as John 1 said.

[Esaias]

Just started reading Annals, by Tacitus. In English, unfortunately, as my Latin is nowhere up to speed...

Also been reading various scholarly treatments concerning the Essenes, Qumran Community, and related issues (see the thread on the Son of Man And His Coming In Power). I will probably be looking to obtain a copy of the Ugaritic texts to add to the studies, since all of that ties into ancient Baal worship and Babylonian mythology.

But Tacitus - I just started reading tonight, and I already like the guy. Even in translation his personality is showing, in spite of him attempting to write a history devoid of biases.

[votivesoul]

I am currently reading the following book:

https://besselvanderkolk.net/the-bod...the-score.html

It's a great read so far, but hard to read, too, as he gives real life accounts of things people have gone through or experienced, not in graphic, yet still very blunt, terms.

[Amanah]

I'm reading Esaias' new book, oh wait, no I'm not

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I'm reading Esaias' new book, oh wait, no I'm not

[berkeley]

Yandex... in Russia. 🇷🇺

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

I am currently reading the following book:

https://besselvanderkolk.net/the-bod...the-score.html

It's a great read so far, but hard to read, too, as he gives real life accounts of things people have gone through or experienced, not in graphic, yet still very blunt, terms.

I finished this about a week ago. Very good over all. Some weak points. Afterwords, I thought about reading People of the Lie, but since I'd just finished a pretty depressing book about psychological trauma and what it does to the brain, I figured I would read something less heavy.

So I picked up and read in about three days Born to Run. It was very good, albeit some language concerns decreased my overall enjoyment.

Since then I've started reading three different books. Alan Segal's Two Powers in Heaven, Being Mortal by Dr. Atul Gawande, and The Lost History of Christianity: The Thousand-Year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, African, and Asia--And How It Died by Philip Jenkins:

https://voice.dts.edu/review/philip-...-christianity/

Of the three, this is the most interesting so far.

[Luke]

Don't waste your life by John Piper